Thinking outside the box

I've always thought that retirement should be phased in, at 61 you drop to a 4 day week, at 62 a 3 day week, 64 a two day week and so on.

I know a few people who died within 6 months of retiring and it was like they had nothing left to live for.

Why not a 2 or 3 day week for everyone? If we all agree, we can all have 4 or 5 day weekends.

Kids can spend more time with family/friends and others can spend more time doubh what they like
 
Into the system of course. In helping to bring the floor up for many, instead of extending the ceiling for few.
So a man/women's life work and endeavour, of which they have built for their children, should be partly taken away when they have, given the fact they must be wealthy, paid an already vast amount in tax over 5/6 decades?

What kind of bullshit version of socialism does that fall under?
 
So a man/women's life work and endeavour, of which they have built for their children, should be partly taken away when they have, given the fact they must be wealthy, paid an already vast amount in tax over 5/6 decades?

What kind of bullshit version of socialism does that fall under?

Dunno, but it falls under utilitarianism quite well.
I am talking about the extremes by the way, how many million head start should a certain child have? You wouldn't call it a fair horse race if the richest horses started closest to the finishing line would you?
 
Dunno, but it falls under utilitarianism quite well.
I am talking about the extremes by the way, how many million head start should a certain child have? You wouldn't call it a fair horse race if the richest horses started closest to the finishing line would you?

Okay so you've gone from a limit on inheritance to people starting on the same starting line. Flip it on it's head...I could be a self-made millionaire who has worked his bollocks off to provide a bright future for my child. I've already paid thousands and thousands in tax to help other families less well off than my own and my life's work is what I'm leaving my child after paying more in tax than most will earn in a lifetime. How much more money should be taken away because other families have had kids when they can't afford them?

Why don't we just scrap rewarding hard work and everyone be on the same income, whether you're a brain surgeon or a stay-at-home alcoholic?
 
Okay so you've gone from a limit on inheritance to people starting on the same starting line. Flip it on it's head...I could be a self-made millionaire who has worked his bollocks off to provide a bright future for my child. I've already paid thousands and thousands in tax to help other families less well off than my own and my life's work is what I'm leaving my child after paying more in tax than most will earn in a lifetime. How much more money should be taken away because other families have had kids when they can't afford them?

Why don't we just scrap rewarding hard work and everyone be on the same income, whether you're a brain surgeon or a stay-at-home alcoholic?

Well that would be a silly thing to do wouldn't it?

Self-made millionaire? wonderful. But there should still be a limit. As I said I was talking about the extremes. There are people who are beneficiaries of legacy wealth who have done nothing to earn it. Being born isn't earning anything.. we can surely agree on that. In an ideal world, yes, all kids should start on the same line and the best performers *earn* the most pay, what's unfair about that? The world isn't ideal, and all I was saying was, stop the extremes. Money is made out of sweat and blood after all.
 
Dunno, but it falls under utilitarianism quite well.
I am talking about the extremes by the way, how many million head start should a certain child have? You wouldn't call it a fair horse race if the richest horses started closest to the finishing line would you?
Life (or getting to death!) is a race?

Is it being first in the race, or richest, that equals "winner?"

Or, is it getting to the end of your life knowing you have raised high quality, kind, generous and compassionate children or had an equivalent effect on the lives of others, that is the benchmark of having lived a good life?

What is YOUR savings accumulation threshold for "so much we should confiscate it"? Does that include a home you lived in your entire life and want to pass on to your children? What about a family farm? Would you cancel all trusts and estate planning mechanisms designed to thwart the long arm of government?

No agenda, and not trying to set you up for a response, just interested in your views.
 
Well that would be a silly thing to do wouldn't it?

Self-made millionaire? wonderful. But there should still be a limit. As I said I was talking about the extremes. There are people who are beneficiaries of legacy wealth who have done nothing to earn it. Being born isn't earning anything.. we can surely agree on that. In an ideal world, yes, all kids should start on the same line and the best performers *earn* the most pay, what's unfair about that? The world isn't ideal, and all I was saying was, stop the extremes. Money is made out of sweat and blood after all.
I see you may have answered a few of the questions, or possibly just raised others, above.

When you start every kid on the same line, and they then work hard, and more importantly, work smart, to get ahead, what lesson are you teaching if you then take it away from their family, many of whom may have worked hard to help make him so successful, and tell them, "Great job! Now, do it again...and again...and again...and again!"?

FWIW, SOME money is made out of sweat and blood, but LOTS AND LOTS of money is "made" out of working smarter, not harder. Buying a stock, holding it for decades, and cashing it in for your retirement requires zero sweat or blood, but it is what makes most people rich in their later years, and it is where much of the wealth you seek to confiscate resides. Smarter, not harder.

That aside, tax policies should definitely reflect the societal goals of the wider population.
 

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