This Cesspit of a City

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dickie davies said:
My daughter graduated from Salford Uni yesterday and we stayed over in the Travelodge on Blackfriars street
For the evening I booked a table at Evuna in the Northern quarter and there were thirteen guests, 4 students, another daughter and eight parents
The parents were
us originally from Stockport now living in mid Cheshire
One Dad originally from Wigan now living in Hampshire where his Mrs is from
Two parents from Nottingham
Two from County Derry Northern Ireland

As we were all staying in the sameish area, we arranged to meet up for a pre meal drink in the Printworks. I said that Evuna had great reviews and that the Northern quarter was a vibrant area, still with some work to do but nothing like it used to be
Just after 6pm, following drinks we walked to Evuna ensuring I avoided the eyesore that is Piccadilly. In the streets leading to Evuna there were crack heads lighting up in doorways

We had a lovely meal and as we will probably never meet up again it took a long time to say our goodbyes, so these carried on outside the restaurant where we were hounded by homeless beggars

I felt embarrassed for the city that after I'd been singing its praises it will have left such a shitty impression on all these parents
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A couple of pals used to come over from Yorkshire every year for a weekend & we’d have a booze up round town, told em not to bother anymore i’m So embarrassed by the state of the place.
 
The only reason I voted for Andy Burnham is because he vowed to do something about the homelessness problem in the city. All i've seen so far, apart from more homeless, are posters telling us what he's going to do for the homeless. It's doing nothing but getting worse.

I suppose I should've known better than to trust a scouser.
 
feelymcfeel said:
The only reason I voted for Andy Burnham is because he vowed to do something about the homelessness problem in the city. All i've seen so far, apart from more homeless, are posters telling us what he's going to do for the homeless. It's doing nothing but getting worse.

I suppose I should've known better than to trust a scouser.
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Hes fuckin hopeless but if labour put up Gary Glitter as there mayoral candidate he’d get in.
Burnhams just another career politician isnt he ? Failed to get any sort of role in the shadow government so came oop north.

And as regards to City Centre, an utter shit pit that gets worse everytime i go
 
MellowJoe said:
I don't go into town much, but worked at the Rem Bar for a refurb not so long ago. Early starts, and I was treated to fresh turds and duffed filled johnnies on the ground in the alleys on the walk in. Who would volunteer to clean that up!?
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If the turds are all fresh, someone must be doing a good job clearing up the old ones...
 
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I'm ashamed of how Manchester is these days and the only thing keeping me in this city, and even the country is my passion for MCFC.

University of Manchester students graffiti Rudyard Kipling IF poem because he is an "imperialist". It's a nice, motivating poem get a grip.

Only thing that lessens the blow of how Manchester is, is that it's happening everywhere and the country really is in a sad state of affairs both philosophically and generally.
 
Scottyboi said:
I remember going Singapore and being blown away by how clean it was, it was a joy to walk around.
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Singapore is very clean.
I had an old mate over recently and he kept going on about how clean and lovely Brisbane City centre is.
Ive lived here 30 years and Im quite proud to show people round.

 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Liverpool and Leeds have a far lower homelessness problem. In fact their homeless come to Manchester thinking it's a haven for the homeless.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...r-news/what-being-done-help-homeless-14203255

"Manchester has nearly twice as many rough sleepers as Birmingham and almost three times that of Liverpool"

There's a homeless fella in Chorlton (if you live there you'll know who i mean, he's the one with a fucking horrendous cough and just pisses in the street in full view of everyone!), who is from Wigan or somewhere and told a mate of mine that he stays here because people give him money not like where he was from originally.
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Dont believe evevrything you read in the papers, im telling you n everyone else on this forum that Manchester is no different to anywhere else in the UK, i know for a fact that Leeds has a big homeless problem, with Mnchester most of it is based in the town centre, with other areas such as West Yorkshire the outskirts are just as bad. Anyway i was discussing how to eradicate it and saying the source of the problem is drink n drugs, and if we help people with there addictions we get rid of homelessness.
 
Lived in Philadelphia my whole life and it seems that the complaints of all are not just in Manchester. Our Center City has it' own clean up crew, who do a wonderful job. The same cannot be said for the rest of William Penn's "greene country towne ". It seems that the problem doesn't exist among the visitors to the city, but in its residents. I have lived in many neighborhoods in my city, from upper-middle class to the toughest patch of pavement in Philly. It's an endemic problem, I have been assaulted over the comment to clean up your mess, even pigs don't shit where they eat. It truly creates an us vs. them environment, which I, as one solitary man, thinks sucks.
 
I’be been to Brighton/Birmingham recently and the state of the pavements and litter problem is worse than Manchester.

Maybe an idea would be to charge a City tax on people staying over night in hotels. Most Cities have started doing this and the money could be put back into cleaning the City centre?
 
Probably too many 'menial' jobs cut in the interest of keeping the upper levels of management. Oh, and I'm not a Leftie.
 
Ban-jani said:
No ridicule from me, I get your point.

My point is that we pay an absolute fortune in council tax for this to be taken care of, amongst other things.

The responsibility is as follows in my opinion -

1. Selfish stupid lazy **** dropping litter.
2. Council cleaning it up considering the fortune we pay them.
3. The rest of us.
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Mate, in America, I live in a nice suburb of Chicago and pay $12,000+ in council tax, plus almost $15,000 in state income tax, and all that’s before Federal Income Tax....and I have to pay $360/yr EXTRA for my own household trash removal, plus $2/bag for yard clippings.

Litter in the streets is a matter of personal responsibility, which, in Manchester, appears to equate with a heaping helping of “I don’t give a fuck!” et voila!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Mate, in America, I live in a nice suburb of Chicago and pay $12,000+ in council tax, plus almost $15,000 in state income tax, and all that’s before Federal Income Tax....and I have to pay $360/yr EXTRA for my own household trash removal, plus $2/bag for yard clippings.

Litter in the streets is a matter of personal responsibility, which, in Manchester, appears to equate with a heaping helping of “I don’t give a fuck!” et voila!
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Couldn't really argue with that. There is a personal responsibility to all of this - but people will point to paying their Council Tax, but I bet they wouldn't agree Finlay's more for litter clearing.

There is a volunteer group who clear up our local park (Erwood Park). During the recent hot weather the park was used a lot by groups for BBQs and days out by decent sized groups. The amount of shite they leave lying around is shocking - and they're mainly local. Lazy, selfish bastards.
 
in 2 weeks time I will be visiting manc for the first time in 6.5 years. Very interested to see what it's like now (but not letting you miserable bastards spoil my holiday!)
 
Scottyboi said:
I remember going Singapore and being blown away by how clean it was, it was a joy to walk around. I hate our city centre, I'm working as hard as I can to move away from Manchester now. Going to the match is a chore if you go on public transport, ruins my mood for the match walking through piss stained alleys in town.

Kids on the estate just don't give a fuck, you get old peoples bins being pushed over and everything. I'd love to give them a hiding.
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Younger people get a hard time but I think this generation are alright. In the late 90’s, everyone was a scally around my way. Not many worked and crime was rife. I returned to a similar area last year and things were so much different. It was more peaceful and welcoming too.

It goes through circles does Manchester. Sometimes great and sometimes awful.
 
I agree that it seems better now than I did when I was growing up, too (albeit Salford, not Manc).

Higher Broughton, where I'm currently crashing, is quiet as fuck. Not seen kids drinking outside shops since the early noughties.

Still some rum places though.
 
Salfordian Blue said:
I agree that it seems better now than I did when I was growing up, too (albeit Salford, not Manc).

Higher Broughton, where I'm currently crashing, is quiet as fuck. Not seen kids drinking outside shops since the early noughties.

Still some rum places though.
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It was the hooped jumpers, tracksuit bottoms tucked in to paisley socks and branded shoes / trainers on a night out. The girls with their Croydon facelifts and bad tans. They could never handle their drink and it’d kick off.

Or hassle in town for spare change. They’d get aggressive if you wouldn’t give them any. Wall to wall scallies in a town full of cheap drink and bargain shops.

I had friends who said I was the only local who gave them time of day (I’m not really from Manchester - more of an adoptive citizen.) That saddens me.
 
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