this global economy problem

brass neck

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I realise I'm a money simpleton..so bare with me BUT

If every country in the world is feeling the pinch, every economy is bolloxed, every country is heading down the swanny. WHY cant every country just agree to rip up all debts, get rid of all present monetary devices, burn all current money, print new money, set up a new system, and start again. A little like pressing reset on the games machine. Surely the problem the world is facing isn't due to owing money, its due to money not moving about. just start again...OK if a few banks lose out...who cares!!!!!!
 
brass neck said:
I realise I'm a money simpleton..so bare with me BUT

If every country in the world is feeling the pinch, every economy is bolloxed, every country is heading down the swanny. WHY cant every country just agree to rip up all debts, get rid of all present monetary devices, burn all current money, print new money, set up a new system, and start again. A little like pressing reset on the games machine. Surely the problem the world is facing isn't due to owing money, its due to money not moving about. just start again...OK if a few banks lose out...who cares!!!!!!

You answered your own question. The banks care
 
brass neck said:
I realise I'm a money simpleton..so bare with me BUT

If every country in the world is feeling the pinch, every economy is bolloxed, every country is heading down the swanny. WHY cant every country just agree to rip up all debts, get rid of all present monetary devices, burn all current money, print new money, set up a new system, and start again. A little like pressing reset on the games machine. Surely the problem the world is facing isn't due to owing money, its due to money not moving about. just start again...OK if a few banks lose out...who cares!!!!!!


I think maybe China would like to have a say with that????
 
brass neck said:
I realise I'm a money simpleton..so bare with me BUT

If every country in the world is feeling the pinch, every economy is bolloxed, every country is heading down the swanny. WHY cant every country just agree to rip up all debts, get rid of all present monetary devices, burn all current money, print new money, set up a new system, and start again. A little like pressing reset on the games machine. Surely the problem the world is facing isn't due to owing money, its due to money not moving about. just start again...OK if a few banks lose out...who cares!!!!!!

The reason money isn't moving about is precisely because of people owing, and not being able to pay off, debts. Aswell as general economies (particularly the USA's economy - seeing how the crisis began there) being unsustainable 70-80% service based economies.

A new monetary policy is needed, banking system etc. Personally I think money needs to be made sound again by some kind of backing - gold, silver etc - to ensure the integrity of the currency and to keep government spending in check. A new decentralized banking system, whereby interest rates are set by the market and not some central "authority" , the Federal Reserve in the USA's case,

Basically we have to do the opposite of what we have been doing for the past couple of decades. Shrink government, and its burden on society, size/spending/power. Restore soundness to currency. Cut taxes massively. Let the market work and allow poorly run businesses to go bankrupt which then allows the more honest and/or competent people to take over. Allow recessions to play out (the reason why this one is so bad is because the US kept re-inflating bubbles, like the .com one etc), cut barriers to competition (ie. regulations) and generally cut back on central economic planning. The Western economies need to rebalance and start manufacturing products to sell. To do this people need to save.

I'd disagree with you that all the worlds economies are bolloxed. Most are, but some, like the Asian economies, have stronger foundations and are much more capable of working their way out of the crisis because they have a manufacturing base. Of course, if they continue the policies of creating "Zombie" banks and businesses then they will be as fucked as we will be. If we all keep rewarding bad business practices by printing up bail outs then there is a much worse crisis heading our way in the next decade.

And writing off debts will not go down well with those who are owed the green ;)
 
brass neck said:
I realise I'm a money simpleton..so bare with me BUT

If every country in the world is feeling the pinch, every economy is bolloxed, every country is heading down the swanny. WHY cant every country just agree to rip up all debts, get rid of all present monetary devices, burn all current money, print new money, set up a new system, and start again. A little like pressing reset on the games machine. Surely the problem the world is facing isn't due to owing money, its due to money not moving about. just start again...OK if a few banks lose out...who cares!!!!!!
That’s sort off what’s happened in the USA with the government taking on all the toxic debt
 
I know that it's more complicated that this but basically...

A load of dodgy American banks/companies/institutions gave away money too easily to people for mortgages in America. Then people realised they couldn't afford it, foreclosed on the mortgage and suddenly the debts went unpaid. All of a sudden, the whole world is in an economic crisis. Suddenly the shit hits the fan.

Now, the thing I don't get is.....at what point did the connection happen about a load of Americans not being able to afford their dodgy mortgages turn into people over here losing their jobs? Mad isn't it? I know that the whole things connected, but it's just mad at how it happens.

And also, everyone's skint in the UK. Why? Food's fairly cheap at the moment, the price of fuel has dropped. Wages haven't dropped, interests rates have plummeted so mortgage payments have gone down (if you're on a tracker). But still, everyone's skint. Where is the wage that they had a year ago, that covere3d everything suddenly become so little that people can't go out?

Mad.
 
carrconormcfc said:
brass neck said:
I realise I'm a money simpleton..so bare with me BUT

If every country in the world is feeling the pinch, every economy is bolloxed, every country is heading down the swanny. WHY cant every country just agree to rip up all debts, get rid of all present monetary devices, burn all current money, print new money, set up a new system, and start again. A little like pressing reset on the games machine. Surely the problem the world is facing isn't due to owing money, its due to money not moving about. just start again...OK if a few banks lose out...who cares!!!!!!

You answered your own question. The banks care
But if you dig deeper, the Banks who made the loans lent fresh air, nish, nil, numbers on a computer screen !! The beauty of this well executed scam to keep the rich richer is that for every £1 you deposit in your account, it legally entitles the Banks to lend 10 times that amount and charge interest on it !! So in reality if everyone just paid back 10% of any debts the banks would/should not be out of pocket !!
PS IMO this crisis was allowed to happen so that the Governments could start to Nationalise Banks, and make it easier to devalue Sterling to be comparable with the Euro before telling us that we need to join the wider banking community !!
 

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