This month's Four Four Two

danburge82 said:
Four Four Two said we were going to be champions in their summer mag last season too. The front cover had a picture of Mancini, Tevez, Given, AJohnson and Adebayor with the caption "THE NEW CHAMPIONS?" and the article inside talked about how we could win the league title. I didn't think we could...we didn't!

Our faults last season were at left back; pace in midfield; creativity other than Silva (in fact we looked lost when he wasn't in the pitch!); lack of ambition to score goals (scored 18 fewer than United who had an average scoring season for them!); we didn't even try to score away against the top teams (P5 W0 D2 L3 F1 A7 Pts2/15 with quite literally about 5 shots on target from all five games); our centre forward dropped too deep to get the ball leaving nobody upfront; our centre forward was too greedy and didn't pass to players in better positions; nobody can cross a ball; we give far too many free kicks away around the box; we were average a hell of a lot of the time (rarely shite, but also rarely brillaint!); a little too often we were disjointed and lacked understanding of each other (this improved in the last 6 or 7 games!).

All this and we won the FA Cup and finsihed joint second in the league. This was because we had as many positives as I've listed faults above, I'm just concentrating on them for now.

We haven't, however, addressed all of the above points. We still haven't got pace in midfield or got another creative, forward thinking midfielder (GET NASRI SIGNED, CITY!!!). Will we have any more ambition to score more goals or to go for the top teams away from home? Well not one of us know the answer to that but at a guess I'd say yes, but not enough to score more than the average 78.4 goals the champions have scored in the Premier League since it became 20 teams (16 seasons) (we scored 60 last season) nor to come home with more wins than defeats at the other top teams. Will we stop giving free kicks away in dangerous positions? Will someone miraculously come up with the skill of being able to cross the ball into the box?

We will be better this season than last. I think we will win more games, draw and lose fewer and score more. We will have a lot more fluidity and understanding as for once we've not signed 7 players who all need time to gel, we've just got Clichy and Agüero so the gelling period for the team will be shorter than previous seasons and those who've all been here a while will be even more gelled than before. I think we'll have fewer average performances and a greater amount of brilliant as a result of this. But unless we address the areas from the paragraph before this I just don't think we will win the league title!

My prediction: SECOND! (and I'll be extatic with that) (and we'll be even better the next season).
That's a very good post if I may say so. We know we have a lot of positives but the big question is around eliminating the negatives. The biggest is our away form against the teams that finished in the top half - W1 D2 L6 F6 (4 of those at Fulham), A12. Of those top half teams we had the worst record. Rags and Chelsea weren't much better but Arsenal had 13 points and Spurs 15 in those games.

In fact, we were 15th in the table for away results against teams in the top half. LINK If we put that right, we will have a very good chance of winning or close second.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
danburge82 said:
Four Four Two said we were going to be champions in their summer mag last season too. The front cover had a picture of Mancini, Tevez, Given, AJohnson and Adebayor with the caption "THE NEW CHAMPIONS?" and the article inside talked about how we could win the league title. I didn't think we could...we didn't!

Our faults last season were at left back; pace in midfield; creativity other than Silva (in fact we looked lost when he wasn't in the pitch!); lack of ambition to score goals (scored 18 fewer than United who had an average scoring season for them!); we didn't even try to score away against the top teams (P5 W0 D2 L3 F1 A7 Pts2/15 with quite literally about 5 shots on target from all five games); our centre forward dropped too deep to get the ball leaving nobody upfront; our centre forward was too greedy and didn't pass to players in better positions; nobody can cross a ball; we give far too many free kicks away around the box; we were average a hell of a lot of the time (rarely shite, but also rarely brillaint!); a little too often we were disjointed and lacked understanding of each other (this improved in the last 6 or 7 games!).

All this and we won the FA Cup and finsihed joint second in the league. This was because we had as many positives as I've listed faults above, I'm just concentrating on them for now.

We haven't, however, addressed all of the above points. We still haven't got pace in midfield or got another creative, forward thinking midfielder (GET NASRI SIGNED, CITY!!!). Will we have any more ambition to score more goals or to go for the top teams away from home? Well not one of us know the answer to that but at a guess I'd say yes, but not enough to score more than the average 78.4 goals the champions have scored in the Premier League since it became 20 teams (16 seasons) (we scored 60 last season) nor to come home with more wins than defeats at the other top teams. Will we stop giving free kicks away in dangerous positions? Will someone miraculously come up with the skill of being able to cross the ball into the box?

We will be better this season than last. I think we will win more games, draw and lose fewer and score more. We will have a lot more fluidity and understanding as for once we've not signed 7 players who all need time to gel, we've just got Clichy and Agüero so the gelling period for the team will be shorter than previous seasons and those who've all been here a while will be even more gelled than before. I think we'll have fewer average performances and a greater amount of brilliant as a result of this. But unless we address the areas from the paragraph before this I just don't think we will win the league title!

My prediction: SECOND! (and I'll be extatic with that) (and we'll be even better the next season).
That's a very good post if I may say so. We know we have a lot of positives but the big question is around eliminating the negatives. The biggest is our away form against the teams that finished in the top half - W1 D2 L6 F6 (4 of those at Fulham), A12. Of those top half teams we had the worst record. Rags and Chelsea weren't much better but Arsenal had 13 points and Spurs 15 in those games.

In fact, we were 15th in the table for away results against teams in the top half. LINK If we put that right, we will have a very good chance of winning or close second.
I definately think we need to take more points off the top half teams - I didn't realise our stat's were that bad away from home. Either that or we have to be impeccable at home!

Away from home in Europe last season we weren't good at all neither.
P5 W1 D2 L2 F4 A6! Against no opposition I would consider even half decent. If we show the same sort of form in the Champions Lg this season we wont get through the group stages.
 
To win the league it's quite simple, we have to do better against the teams around us, we drew with Arsenal away last season, drew with the rags at home and lost at home to Arsenal & away to Chelsea, that means we only won 1 game against the fellow teams in the top 4 last season.

Are record against the teams in the bottom-half was very good though.
 
rassclot said:
Tricky_Trev said:
It only seems like a few years ago when i was reading these season previews and seeing:

Predition: 16th

it was only a few years ago mate ;)

I'm sure if ESPN asked Craig Burley for his 2011/12 predictions he's have us as favorites to go down. Lawro probably wouldn't be far behind - and he'd have the Dippers winning it!
 
That's a very good post if I may say so. We know we have a lot of positives but the big question is around eliminating the negatives. The biggest is our away form against the teams that finished in the top half - W1 D2 L6 F6 (4 of those at Fulham), A12. Of those top half teams we had the worst record. Rags and Chelsea weren't much better but Arsenal had 13 points and Spurs 15 in those games.

In fact, we were 15th in the table for away results against teams in the top half. LINK If we put that right, we will have a very good chance of winning or close second.
I definately think we need to take more points off the top half teams - I didn't realise our stat's were that bad away from home. Either that or we have to be impeccable at home!

Away from home in Europe last season we weren't good at all neither.
P5 W1 D2 L2 F4 A6! Against no opposition I would consider even half decent. If we show the same sort of form in the Champions Lg this season we wont get through the group stages.

To put those statistics into context, here are the away results for the top four. (in order, Utd, Chelsea, City, Arsenal)

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Sorry about the dodgy table (I am on my way out) but you can see what I'm getting at.

Arsenal and Spurs got more away wins vs the rest of the top 10 than the teams who finished 1,2,3.

In fact Utd, Chelsea and City managed just two wins out of 27 away vs top half teams.
 
HankTheSucker said:
Chick Counterfly said:
Sorry about the dodgy table (I am on my way out) but you can see what I'm getting at.

Sorry to hear that mate. God bless you and your family and RIP (when it comes).
That's City fans. Always put their fellow blues first.

Anyway here's the actual table showing away from against the top half.
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And just for balance. No such problems on the road against the bottom half:

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