Thomas Tuchel | England Manager

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[madloaf]

2 finals and a semi final , complete failure.

And what a who's who of teams he ran through.

Slovakia, Switzerland and a mediocre Dutch side....predictably beaten by Spain.

Senegal...predictably beaten by France.

At home..the worst German side in 50 years, Ukraine, and Denmark after their best player died on the pitch ...predictably beaten by Italy.

Columbia, Sweden...predictably beaten by Croatia.

I'm sensing a pattern.

 

[M23 Citizen]

 

[East Level 2]

Well it isn't incorrect. I just picked a random year - 1989 - and checked England's results. From the beginning of the season to December, there were 4 international breaks. England played 2 qualifiers and 2 friendly matches.

We've always had these international breaks. They were likely in place when you first got into football. The Nations League has replaced friendlies. They are largely useless but add to a country's ranking (so affect chances of qualification) and also give a back door route into tournaments.

What's changed is football fans' perspectives on international football. I'm far less excited about non tournament England matches now than I was when I was 11 in 1989 but I don't piss and moan about it every time an international break comes along because it's a worthless exercise. I can't change them and they're not going away.

Football players want to represent their countries. We get to watch those players play for our clubs an enormous amount more than they play for their country.

As for making money for the FA and UEFA, everyone in football is there to make more and more money. City are as guilty as anyone of this as this week's news on season tickets shows. It's blinkered to complain about one element of money being made because you don't particularly like it.

They weren't around when I got into football.
Teams would play league games on a Saturday and internationals during the season would be midweek and it would be back to league games the following weekend.
The press would carry stories of Ramsey, Revie, Greenwood and possibly even Sir Joe, phoning club managers after the Saturday games to check on any injuries.

 

[East Level 2]

Nobody mentioned nationality when Dutchwoman Sarina Wiegman guided England to their Euros title.

 

[fitzy blue]

I’m one of those who thinks international football should be our best against their best. That’s the entire point of international football. We don’t draft in Kevin de Bruyne and Rodri to play in midfield because we haven’t got a decent defensive mid or truly creative mid in the squad. We go with what we’ve got with the English lads.

And it should be the same with the manager. He should always be English. It should never have been Sven, never have been Capello and it shouldn’t be Tuchel.

However, until we address the problem we have in England/English football with regards to being bereft of a talent pool of English coaches, I can see why we’d look for a foreign coach.

It costs £3,645 to enrol on an UEFA A Licence course in England and unbelievably costs £9,890 to complete the UEFA Pro Licence. There are also very limited spaces to do the Licences at St George’s Park each year.

That’s why we only have less than 1,800 qualified English coaches.

In Spain they have 15,000+ qualified coaches!

That’s because it costs €960 and €1,070 for the same Licences, respectively.

Something needs to change in England.

But good luck to Tuchel, I hope he does well.

I've nothing against Tuchel but it just doesn't feel right in the international football world.
Would Germany hire an English manager to manage their team? Absolutely no chance .
All the successful international teams have had managers from their own country, we've tried this route before without any success. I'm sure we've got an English manager who can bring us success if given the chance.
Tuchels main success was beating us 1-0 in the champions league final when Pep didn't quite get his tactics right.
We had an off night against a team that finished 19 points behind us in the league.
We need a manager that's not just there for the money but is there for national pride.

 

[Platt Lane 59]

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Wonder if the new England manager will play with a false "nein" ?

 

[Bill Walker]

Wonder if the new England manager will play with a false "nein" ?

You have a very drei sense of humour

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Nobody mentioned nationality when Dutchwoman Sarina Wiegman guided England to their Euros title.

I'd imagine there's not much crossover between the people who insist the manager has got to be English and people who watch women's football.

 

[halfcenturyup]

You have a very drei sense of humour

That zwei no-one ever noticed it.