Ticket prices are now a problem at City

Bert Trautmann's Parachute said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's simple. Selling 40,000 tickets at £50 brings in significantly more revenue than selling 47,000 tickets at £35.
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That certainly is simple.
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But why take £35? Why not calculate to £40? That way we'll see a £180k per game difference, significant but less of an impact. Take 47k x £42 and we break even.

We could continue to vary prices as we do and charge more for the bigger games.

I'm out of all cup schemes this season and probably going to ditch the SC next season, times are hard for everyone and when it comes to making cuts in personal budgets, MCFC are high on my list of things that can go.
 
stony said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's simple. Selling 40,000 tickets at £50 brings in significantly more revenue than selling 47,000 tickets at £35.
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The difference between 47,000 tickets at £50 and 47,000 at £20 works out at £26,790,000 a season. So that's just short of £27M for a season, not counting cups. Those figures won't be completely accurate because of corporate seats, but its a rough idea.
Let's pretend we live in a world without FFP for a minute. If there is one club is the world who could take that sort of hit its City.
Think of the publicity we'd get for that and think of the shit our competitors would get.
Younger people could afford to go, people who make more noise. So not only are we guaranteed a full house every week, but the atmosphere would improve too. We'd also be guaranteeing the next generation of blues.
Think how much pressure other clubs would be under to reduce ticket prices if the champions were charging £20 to get in.
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Spot on.

Yet another reason why FFP is majorly flawed. 'Financial Fair Play' will become the stock answer for all clubs when tickets start costing £80, and burgers a tenner.
 
Don't know why people keep comparing City's ticket prices with the other English clubs playing in the Champions League. City are the ones who had 8,000 empty seats for their opening home game.

Sort it out City, the prices are too high for our fan base. Don't care what other clubs are charging you're attempting to fleece the loyal fans who stood by the club for nearly 4 decades of failure.
 
RP2 said:
stony said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
It's simple. Selling 40,000 tickets at £50 brings in significantly more revenue than selling 47,000 tickets at £35.
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The difference between 47,000 tickets at £50 and 47,000 at £20 works out at £26,790,000 a season. So that's just short of £27M for a season, not counting cups. Those figures won't be completely accurate because of corporate seats, but its a rough idea.
Let's pretend we live in a world without FFP for a minute. If there is one club is the world who could take that sort of hit its City.
Think of the publicity we'd get for that and think of the shit our competitors would get.
Younger people could afford to go, people who make more noise. So not only are we guaranteed a full house every week, but the atmosphere would improve too. We'd also be guaranteeing the next generation of blues.
Think how much pressure other clubs would be under to reduce ticket prices if the champions were charging £20 to get in.
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Spot on.

Yet another reason why FFP is majorly flawed. 'Financial Fair Play' will become the stock answer for all clubs when tickets start costing £80, and burgers a tenner.
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This idea was floated on here ages ago and I agreed with it then. Pack the place out with cheap seats and the benefits would be enormous and it wouldn't cost us that much. Matchday revenues on programs and pies and what have you would increase and we'd doubtless attract new fans and new lifetime sources of revenue (has it not occured to anyone that every other business in the world gives great offers to new customers, to get them on the hook). And we'd probably be able to charge more for corporates and sponsorships because the place would be packed and rocking all the time. Then there's third party francising opportunities and hotel accommodation and goodness knows what.

The other thing is - and I know this may be controversial, but personally I would make attending a minimum number of home games (say 12 league games) a requirement in order to retain your season ticket. It's no use being "sold out" and seeing 5,000 empty seats every week.
 
the originalkippaxman said:
City offer the best value for money in ticket prices for league and all cup games in the Premier League. Extremely harsh that fans are saying that the Club is pricing us out you all should be ashamed to even think that. I understand it is difficult for a lot of people to afford the games but stop blaming the club.What is pricing us out is our own Success

We are not used to having to fork out hand over fist for games as we have never been in most of these competitions for a long time. My season ticket costs £675 and I pay that on a direct debit basis. Fairly certain that City is the only club that offers this to the fans so they can spread the cost over the season.

What might help the fans is if City add the cost of the group games to the season ticket. So for example mine would have been £775. Meaning a payment of £193,75 every couple of months or open a separate savings account and put £64.58 a month away.

As I said early not as easy for everybody that has children and other commitments but don't start blaming the club that subsides nearly everything that we get.
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Maybe if you are a season ticket holder like myself and many others but let me ask you this.
Why are match day ticket prices individually priced at least £20-£30 dearer??

This is the issue mate-Season tickets are fantastic value...Individual matches are simply not!
 
one of the major problems I foresee is the new fans in the future. As a kid I would get a tenner spends on a Saturday and venture off to the kippax and pay £2.50 and have a great day out. Even as a very working class family from Burnage I managed to go to ever home game 20 to 30 years ago and numerous aways. How could a normal teenager now pay £20 or £30 a fortnight? On top of everything else. The stadium design is not amazing - a kop type end with entrance a tenner would ensure loads of normal working class lads could turn up on the day and the future generations of city fans could grow. Last week vs Chelsea I saw numerous people holding selfie sticks and a lot of wealthy looking middle eastern tourists wearing half and half scarves.

I think i have found a nice balance now where I can mix City with family and i make about 15 games a season. I certainly wouldn't loose sleep over last night and us not playing great. To be truthful since the Aguero moment it has all been a bit whatever for me. Nothing will top that and it is almost like - that was the pinnacle of my 30 years of graft following us. The days of my family going without for City expense are over.

Anyone else feel the same?
 
worsleyweb said:
one of the major problems I foresee is the new fans in the future. As a kid I would get a tenner spends on a Saturday and venture off to the kippax and pay £2.50 and have a great day out. Even as a very working class family from Burnage I managed to go to ever home game 20 to 30 years ago and numerous aways. How could a normal teenager now pay £20 or £30 a fortnight? On top of everything else. The stadium design is not amazing - a kop type end with entrance a tenner would ensure loads of normal working class lads could turn up on the day and the future generations of city fans could grow. Last week vs Chelsea I saw numerous people holding selfie sticks and a lot of wealthy looking middle eastern tourists wearing half and half scarves. I think i have found a nice balance now where I can mix City with family and i make about 15 games a season. I certainly wouldn't loose sleep over last night and us not playing great. To be truthful since the Aguero moment it has all been a bit whatever for me. Nothing will top that and it is almost like - that was the pinnacle of my 30 years of graft following us. The days of my family going without for City expense are over.

Anyone else feel the same?
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I have highlighted the bit which I agree with-fucking plastics-do my nut in
 
i actually go to some games now because i feel obliged too, i am very meh about the whole thing unbelievably despite the great players and sucess of recent years. I can't put a finger on it but the sterile atmosphere coupled with the overexposure and hype of Sky and shite from the tabloids have resulted in me looking back fondly for the era when we were shit strangely, it might be an age thing but i rarely get the tingles and butterflies anymore when watching City and football in general.
 
Premier league football is a product and a brand.

Do you really think they give a shit about the fans?


If you don't like it stop going. They know we (most of us) won't stop.
 
To be honest with you i have started to get watch quite a lot of lower league stuff around the country and had great days out, I can't stop going i'm afraid maybe i am hoping for a miracle and going to see City playing in front of a noisy passionate crowd at the Etihad with the South stand full of thousands of locals but i can't see it sadly.
 
Ticket prices at £35 are ok for adults I would say but kids ticket prices should be no more than a fiver.

Schalke had 70,000 last night against a shit team. Why is that?

Only a small proportion of their tickets are 23 euro. the rest are 32 euro plus.

I find it odd that people would prioritise the Carling Cup against this. Roma or Sheff Wed?
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Ticket prices at £35 are ok for adults I would say but kids ticket prices should be no more than a fiver.

Schalke had 70,000 last night against a shit team. Why is that?

Only a small proportion of their tickets are 23 euro. the rest are 32 euro plus.

I find it odd that people would prioritise the Carling Cup against this. Roma or Sheff Wed?
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Ahhh but those 23 euro tickets are all behind the goal,why? The club knows that's where the atmosphere is generated and price it correctly to be full every week and stick the away fans in a cage at the top of the stadium.
In league matches that area is 15.50 euros 12 quid at current exchange rates for a Bundesliga match that IS why the ground is full and has atmosphere the Germans can do it why cant we? The only hope we have of filling that 3rd tier is 20 pound home game tickets.
 
I never joined the champions league scheme this year. Bored of it already.2 teams from last season. Same old arguments every time we play at the Etihad.Cannot believe how disappointing i find the whole champions league experience.
Missing out the Moscow game due to work commitments and not bothered one bit.Got my ticket for the Bayern game and honestly just going for the sake of it.
Looking forward to the cup tie with Newcastle more.
So while i agree in general ticket prices are too high there is a lot of other things as well involved in my case.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Ticket prices at £35 are ok for adults I would say but kids ticket prices should be no more than a fiver.

Schalke had 70,000 last night against a shit team. Why is that?

Only a small proportion of their tickets are 23 euro. the rest are 32 euro plus.

I find it odd that people would prioritise the Carling Cup against this. Roma or Sheff Wed?
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The Carling Cup was £15, Champs league was £35, i went to the Carling Cup, i am poor.
 
There's more than one reason why the Germans can do it and we can't. Fan ownership, constant dialogue between the clubs and the fans, an acceptance that football over there is for the fans and not a money making exercise for the owners, fans refusing to pay high ticket prices, and probably one of the biggest reasons, players not getting paid £100k-£350K per week.(Etc) Players wages is where most of the money generated goes. To sustain this the clubs(and their owners) have to either keep on finding mind blowing sponsorship deals, or need to constantly raise matchday and season ticket prices.
 
The first person to create a serious, fearless and confrontational supporters group/trust could become a hero.

Not like me to defend a red, but MUST told United that if the Europa League (had they actually made it) was forced into their cup scheme, a large number of members would have given up their season ticket. United then decided against a compulsory cup scheme for Europa had they qualified. This, a club with an infinite amount of tourists to replace these people. Now think about if City's prices were seriously challenged...
 
Bayern tickets price is £40, wonder how much they do the CSKA ones for.

Edit: ah £25 for cska
 
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