Ticket prices are now a problem at City

Our atmosphere has died as we've become successful. Singing when we're losing is a thing of the past, and the only thing that will solve this is £20 ticket caps and a revamp of the stadium. That however is just not going to happen. Is it hypocritical to be against modern football considering the money we've spent?
 
2 rags phoned up today to take the piss out odour empty seats. One has been to old trafford once and one has not been for 2 years.

Wankers.
 
The problem is not poor support. That's just an easy line to throw out and doesn't stack up with our attendances across the whole of the season.
Prohibitive costs are a factor, but it must be a factor that affects other teams too, and they don't appear to be having the issues we are having.

I believe it's a combination of factors - The cup scheme is quite daunting to commit to when you've just committed to a season ticket. I understand why the club does it, but I'm sure if it was clearly a 'bargain' then more would go for it. It needs to be an absolute no brainer to buy into CL, and at present, it's not.

Tourist and away fans are so interspersed with regulars that the atmosphere is severely diluted too. This needs to be addressed.

Our fan base is changing significantly too... and there are more and more families showing up. They will not have the same aggressive dynamic as 20-30's men, but since this IS our new fanbase, we need to make sure they come to CL games... and that means family packages at seriously attractive prices. 35 quid a ticket is bad enough, but when you have two adults and maybe one or two kids, it's too much. It has to be (say) 50 quid all in (and even that's a lot for a family).

Our support's not in question. It's how the club encourage that support... and how they help to create the right atmosphere.

As things stand, we have the atmosphere of a cinema about to enjoy a rom-com. We want to have the atmosphere of 'nobody comes away from here smiling except us'.
 
I find it annoying that we get slagged off by pundits, the media and other fans and not one of them look at the reasons. We need someone to state the cost of a game nowadays.

Scholes is a millionaire and will never have to pay to get into a ground again. On Saturday it cost me £100 for 3 tickets (me, my daughter and son), last night it cost another £75. That is £175 without travel or food etc.

It seems that is all forgotten in this hue and cry. You get dicks like Durham slagging us off as not being proper fans. They know fuck all.
 
My son is an adult, but earns shite money, and as we have been season ticket holders together for 14 years now since he was a kid, I still buy his tickets for him, otherwise he just wouldn't be able to afford it. I enjoy the Dad 'n Lad thing.

So for tickets for a season, including cup schemes, it costing me up towards 2 grand a season. Which is a fekin lot of money, made worse by a more-often-than-not poor atmosphere, with only the "big" games getting the locals around me out of their seats.

If the club was to introduce a "wall" type end, and fill it with a lower price tickets, encourage the singers and vocal supporters to relocate there, I for one would definitely buy into that. It would also pull other more subdued types around the ground along with them.
 
The usual classic myths on this thread

1. It isn't the club's fault. FFP are forcing them to drive prices up.

Get a calculator, dummy!

2. No-one wants the old City back.

Everyone would prefer a successful team but the vast majority of people would prefer a team doing averagely that they could continue to go and see over a team that they can no longer be a regular at. Most long standing blues hold City in a place in their hearts that no plastic, johnny come lately ever could. It was their club, representing their area, somewhere they went every other week (at least) regardless of results or success. Somewhere that was in the fabric of their life and coloured their social life. Something that was woven into their being. So, yeah, given the total about turn from being someone like that to being someone who never experiences that or never knew it in the first place, are you sure that everyone would really prefer the new City from their sofa? Just cos they can say 'we' (some team they rarely see) wins stuff?

3. Just stop getting pissed and smoking and it is ok pricing

Insulting, ridiculous, crass, idiotic.

4. Season tickets are great value still

Compared to who? Other wanker clubs? Season tickets have always been a deal between club and fan. You agree to turn up to every match. The club agree to let you in a a rate that is way below the fair price per game. Season tickets now represent what some people think is an 'alright' price to pay to watch a one off game of football (and what some people think is still ridiculous for 90 minutes of kicking a ball about). They have stopped judging them as season tickets - a heavily discounted product - and started judging them on the criteria that one off match tickets should be judged. If you think that a fair price for a single game of football is £35 a game then you are automatically saying that season tickets are well over priced as they are supposed to be a lot cheaper than the 'fair' price for a one off game. That's why people have always made the deal with their club to buy them.


PS: Bayern will be sold out. But it will be full of the people who were there yesterday and 12,000 more wankers, tourists and away fans in the City end. So when it does sell out, let's not pretend that blues have come flooding back. Around 15 season tickets sit around me and only 3 of us have been at the games versus Barca, Real and Bayern in recent years. THe people in those seats have been either disinterested, acting like celebrity spotters or supporting the away team.

And I would suggest that the club know this and possibly take action to ensure that it happens (getting the tickets into the hands of certain parties) as the stewards are told to adopt a totally different policy to away fans in the City end for Champions League games as they are at league games. I've seen stewards virtually apologising to blues because they are surrounded by away fans but nothing is being done.
 
The truth is that we are no longer fans, we are perceived as customers. If the club are not careful then they are in danger of killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Ticket prices and the marketing of the club to us the long standing fans (sorry customers) leaves alot to be desired. Unless pricing is addressed I won`t be renewing my CL cup scheme next season to watch the same old predictable matches with the same old results.
The club should put the away fans in the upper level 3. Open up both ends of the stadium and sell cheap tickets for the ends. This would lay a foundation for the younger element and those on lower income to afford to attend.
As previously mentioned joining the CL cup scheme offers no attraction. Their was also no 3 match package for non CL scheme members this time.
The cost of Hull away, Roma, and Villa away meant one game had to give. I now wish I hadn`t sacrificed Hull last saturday.
Give me a midweek League Cup (home or away) any day of the week.
 
FanchesterCity said:
The problem is not poor support. That's just an easy line to throw out and doesn't stack up with our attendances across the whole of the season.
Prohibitive costs are a factor, but it must be a factor that affects other teams too, and they don't appear to be having the issues we are having.

I believe it's a combination of factors - The cup scheme is quite daunting to commit to when you've just committed to a season ticket. I understand why the club does it, but I'm sure if it was clearly a 'bargain' then more would go for it. It needs to be an absolute no brainer to buy into CL, and at present, it's not.

Tourist and away fans are so interspersed with regulars that the atmosphere is severely diluted too. This needs to be addressed.

Our fan base is changing significantly too... and there are more and more families showing up. They will not have the same aggressive dynamic as 20-30's men, but since this IS our new fanbase, we need to make sure they come to CL games... and that means family packages at seriously attractive prices. 35 quid a ticket is bad enough, but when you have two adults and maybe one or two kids, it's too much. It has to be (say) 50 quid all in (and even that's a lot for a family).

Our support's not in question. It's how the club encourage that support... and how they help to create the right atmosphere.

As things stand, we have the atmosphere of a cinema about to enjoy a rom-com. We want to have the atmosphere of 'nobody comes away from here smiling except us'.
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But Arsenal fans I believe pay for their Champions League games with their season ticket. And the London clubs have a big element of wealthy fans with all the financial services jobs down there. Liverpool are just back in Europe again.

Our midweek attendances have never been great because a lot of City regulars have gradually moved away from Manchester over the years and there aren't the numbers to take their place when they don't go

A lot of City fans see Champions League games as the first games to give up as City's performances are useless in Europe
 
worsleyweb said:
2 rags phoned up today to take the piss out odour empty seats. One has been to old trafford once and one has not been for 2 years.

Wankers.
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Ask them what was there attendance last night/ tonight in the chumps league and I bet its a big fat zero...
 
jma said:
The usual classic myths on this thread

1. It isn't the club's fault. FFP are forcing them to drive prices up.

Get a calculator, dummy!

2. No-one wants the old City back.

Everyone would prefer a successful team but the vast majority of people would prefer a team doing averagely that they could continue to go and see over a team that they can no longer be a regular at. Most long standing blues hold City in a place in their hearts that no plastic, johnny come lately ever could. It was their club, representing their area, somewhere they went every other week (at least) regardless of results or success. Somewhere that was in the fabric of their life and coloured their social life. Something that was woven into their being. So, yeah, given the total about turn from being someone like that to being someone who never experiences that or never knew it in the first place, are you sure that everyone would really prefer the new City from their sofa? Just cos they can say 'we' (some team they rarely see) wins stuff?

3. Just stop getting pissed and smoking and it is ok pricing

Insulting, ridiculous, crass, idiotic.

4. Season tickets are great value still

Compared to who? Other wanker clubs? Season tickets have always been a deal between club and fan. You agree to turn up to every match. The club agree to let you in a a rate that is way below the fair price per game. Season tickets now represent what some people think is an 'alright' price to pay to watch a one off game of football (and what some people think is still ridiculous for 90 minutes of kicking a ball about). They have stopped judging them as season tickets - a heavily discounted product - and started judging them on the criteria that one off match tickets should be judged. If you think that a fair price for a single game of football is £35 a game then you are automatically saying that season tickets are well over priced as they are supposed to be a lot cheaper than the 'fair' price for a one off game. That's why people have always made the deal with their club to buy them.


PS: Bayern will be sold out. But it will be full of the people who were there yesterday and 12,000 more wankers, tourists and away fans in the City end. So when it does sell out, let's not pretend that blues have come flooding back. Around 15 season tickets sit around me and only 3 of us have been at the games versus Barca, Real and Bayern in recent years. THe people in those seats have been either disinterested, acting like celebrity spotters or supporting the away team.

And I would suggest that the club know this and possibly take action to ensure that it happens (getting the tickets into the hands of certain parties) as the stewards are told to adopt a totally different policy to away fans in the City end for Champions League games as they are at league games. I've seen stewards virtually apologising to blues because they are surrounded by away fans but nothing is being done.
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^^ Love it, very well put indeed.
 
without a dream said:
It's frustrating that as soon as financial pressure got applied the 'we care about the fans' that was so prevalent in the first few years has rapidly disappeared. I actually think our season ticket prices are pretty reasonable but the matchday prices are a fucking pisstake. Hopefully the expansion helps with this.
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I've only read the first page posts so this article may have already been mentioned (my apologies)

Manchester City’s stay-away fans are an unintended consequence of FFP
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/01/manchester-city-crowd-consequence-financial-fair-play" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/blo ... -fair-play</a>
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but I'm inclined to agree with people that this sort of thing is going to happen because at the end of the day we've got a lot of cake to pay for..

sadly that's just the economics of the game, and what's going to happen more and more at the top end of it if you're going to stay competitive and look to satisfy the financial parameters that are set (as unfair as this all is for other clubs who would like to join the elite but can't and for the supporters who would like to purchase tickets for games but find they're too expensive)
 
jma said:
The usual classic myths on this thread

1. It isn't the club's fault. FFP are forcing them to drive prices up.

Get a calculator, dummy!

2. No-one wants the old City back.

Everyone would prefer a successful team but the vast majority of people would prefer a team doing averagely that they could continue to go and see over a team that they can no longer be a regular at. Most long standing blues hold City in a place in their hearts that no plastic, johnny come lately ever could. It was their club, representing their area, somewhere they went every other week (at least) regardless of results or success. Somewhere that was in the fabric of their life and coloured their social life. Something that was woven into their being. So, yeah, given the total about turn from being someone like that to being someone who never experiences that or never knew it in the first place, are you sure that everyone would really prefer the new City from their sofa? Just cos they can say 'we' (some team they rarely see) wins stuff?

3. Just stop getting pissed and smoking and it is ok pricing

Insulting, ridiculous, crass, idiotic.

4. Season tickets are great value still

Compared to who? Other wanker clubs? Season tickets have always been a deal between club and fan. You agree to turn up to every match. The club agree to let you in a a rate that is way below the fair price per game. Season tickets now represent what some people think is an 'alright' price to pay to watch a one off game of football (and what some people think is still ridiculous for 90 minutes of kicking a ball about). They have stopped judging them as season tickets - a heavily discounted product - and started judging them on the criteria that one off match tickets should be judged. If you think that a fair price for a single game of football is £35 a game then you are automatically saying that season tickets are well over priced as they are supposed to be a lot cheaper than the 'fair' price for a one off game. That's why people have always made the deal with their club to buy them.


PS: Bayern will be sold out. But it will be full of the people who were there yesterday and 12,000 more wankers, tourists and away fans in the City end. So when it does sell out, let's not pretend that blues have come flooding back. Around 15 season tickets sit around me and only 3 of us have been at the games versus Barca, Real and Bayern in recent years. THe people in those seats have been either disinterested, acting like celebrity spotters or supporting the away team.

And I would suggest that the club know this and possibly take action to ensure that it happens (getting the tickets into the hands of certain parties) as the stewards are told to adopt a totally different policy to away fans in the City end for Champions League games as they are at league games. I've seen stewards virtually apologising to blues because they are surrounded by away fans but nothing is being done.
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bloody brilliant post
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
jma said:
The usual classic myths on this thread

1. It isn't the club's fault. FFP are forcing them to drive prices up.

Get a calculator, dummy!

2. No-one wants the old City back.

Everyone would prefer a successful team but the vast majority of people would prefer a team doing averagely that they could continue to go and see over a team that they can no longer be a regular at. Most long standing blues hold City in a place in their hearts that no plastic, johnny come lately ever could. It was their club, representing their area, somewhere they went every other week (at least) regardless of results or success. Somewhere that was in the fabric of their life and coloured their social life. Something that was woven into their being. So, yeah, given the total about turn from being someone like that to being someone who never experiences that or never knew it in the first place, are you sure that everyone would really prefer the new City from their sofa? Just cos they can say 'we' (some team they rarely see) wins stuff?

3. Just stop getting pissed and smoking and it is ok pricing

Insulting, ridiculous, crass, idiotic.

4. Season tickets are great value still

Compared to who? Other wanker clubs? Season tickets have always been a deal between club and fan. You agree to turn up to every match. The club agree to let you in a a rate that is way below the fair price per game. Season tickets now represent what some people think is an 'alright' price to pay to watch a one off game of football (and what some people think is still ridiculous for 90 minutes of kicking a ball about). They have stopped judging them as season tickets - a heavily discounted product - and started judging them on the criteria that one off match tickets should be judged. If you think that a fair price for a single game of football is £35 a game then you are automatically saying that season tickets are well over priced as they are supposed to be a lot cheaper than the 'fair' price for a one off game. That's why people have always made the deal with their club to buy them.


PS: Bayern will be sold out. But it will be full of the people who were there yesterday and 12,000 more wankers, tourists and away fans in the City end. So when it does sell out, let's not pretend that blues have come flooding back. Around 15 season tickets sit around me and only 3 of us have been at the games versus Barca, Real and Bayern in recent years. THe people in those seats have been either disinterested, acting like celebrity spotters or supporting the away team.

And I would suggest that the club know this and possibly take action to ensure that it happens (getting the tickets into the hands of certain parties) as the stewards are told to adopt a totally different policy to away fans in the City end for Champions League games as they are at league games. I've seen stewards virtually apologising to blues because they are surrounded by away fans but nothing is being done.
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bloody brilliant post
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A bit condescending towards the so-called "wankers" who did go last night whilst the so called solid season ticket holders didn't bother.
 
Many of you wouldn't have seen the chaos outside the ticket office last night. This was repeated a week ago for the Sheff Wed match.

My money wasn't taken out of my account for the Sheff Wed match. I'm on the cup scheme. My credit card had expired and I hadn't updated my account. I'll take the blame for that. My fault.

My season card wouldn't work at the turnstile. The chaps in blue then checked my season card and told me no payment had been taken out, and as such, I would have to get a ticket from the ticket office. I walked to the ticket office only to find the matchday ticket queue stretched past the souvenir store. The other queue which was just as long was for ticket pick ups. Almost a hour later I bought my ticket. By the time I got into the stadium it was basically half time. :-?

Fast forward to Tuesday night.

I was asked to get a ticket for a friend. I joined the queue with 30 minutes to go before kick off. By the time I got the ticket the game had started. Even worse. The queue for ticket collections was still past the souvenir store when the game had started. These were people/fans/tourists/day trippers who had pre-booked their tickets in advance, and had been made to wait up to an hour in the queue to pick up their tickets. What a great *matchday experience* they must have had.(please come back to City again) I stand corrected. 2 ticket office windows were open for matchday ticket sales, and either 7 or 8 ticket office windows were open for ticket collection. Just like Sheff Wed, there were 1000's of fans waiting outside the ground to either buy or pick up match tickets.

Basically it's a shambles. Forcing fans to queue for over an hour to either buy or pick up tickets. Can you imagine what's its going to be like if we ever fill the Etihad for a cup match, or when we expand the Etihad from 54,000 to 62,000. The ticket office can't cope as it is. so what's it going to be like in the future, when our crowds increase by another 14,000 to 62,000, If they ever do?
 
at the end of the day there is only so much in someones pocket, i didnt go last night simply because of after food and fuel etc it would cost over £60 and it will be the same for CSK and Bayern, does that make me a bad supporter even though i have had a S/T for 30 years, but the time is coming when the cost of the S/T is just to much to afford, for this season i sacked off sky to enable me to afford the payments, i have nothing else to cut back on now, if city had not brought out the installment plan i would have been out of the club after the first title win
 
In reply to jrb (not reposting it gets on my tits). looked a shambles again, why not a link up with one of the big supermarkets around Manchester to have a hole in the wall were citizens card holders can by buy tickets up to KO.
One in all the towns within 25 miles of the stadium and 3 in Manchester.
 
Marvin said:
A bit condescending towards the so-called "wankers" who did go last night whilst the so called solid season ticket holders didn't bother.
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Even worse to those season ticket holders who DID go last night like the many I know.
 
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