Tipping Servers and Bartenders?

Mr Kobayashi said:
Correct but places with a £210 set menu should never be paying minimum wage let alone less than that. If you can't afford to pay staff decent wages whilst running a restaurant in Mayfair, shut up shop and fuck off or put your hands in your own pocket until you can.
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No restaurant in Mayfair is paying minimum wage.
 
Phil1 said:
:-)
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Don’t worry, I don’t judge you; my dad used to pay me and my brother’s school fees in readies! He once told me that the school bursar never blinked once in all the occasions over about a decade he visited the school to square them up. Just counted it out in front of him, and thanked him when she’d finished (and it was correct!). Can you imagine that happening today?!

Know the Yang Sing had an HMRC audit a few years ago, because their cash as a percentage of overall sales was remarkably low for a Chinese restaurant. The daft cunts couldn’t see the wood for the trees!
 
Kompany Car said:
Yes where the culture is to tip (USA, Canada, India etc) mainly because they get paid bugger all. Definitely not in parts of the far east as its seen as disrespectful.

As for mainland Europe and the UK it just depends on the service, its certainly not automatic for me but if they are friendly and seem to do a good job then yeah I leave a tip or at least round it up to the nearest reasonable number.
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I always ask the server who gets the tip. If it’s the restaurant I give them cash.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Don’t worry, I don’t judge you; my dad used to pay me and my brother’s school fees in readies! He once told me that the school bursar never blinked once in all the occasions over about a decade he visited the school to square them up. Just counted it out in front of him, and thanked him when she’d finished (and it was correct!). Can you imagine that happening today?!

Know the Yang Sing had an HMRC audit a few years ago, because their cash as a percentage of overall sales was remarkably low for a Chinese restaurant. The daft cunts couldn’t see the wood for the trees!
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Won’t last forever but until I’m legally obliged to have card machines I’ll crack on.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Le Gavroche was paying less than minimum wage in 2016 (the date of the article) because they had staff doing extra unpaid work.
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That was approaching a decade ago, somewhat ironically the same year we voted to harm ourselves as a nation.

Since Brexit, no way is any **** getting away with paying that sort of dough for seriously good waiting staff. Most of the good ones have fucked off.
 
blueparrot said:
Fair enough I used to do that but speaking to my son and his friends who have been working in bars, no need because they get the whole service charge from the cards.
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And as a further post of mine illustrated it ain’t necessarily so…
 
Phil1 said:
All my bars are cash only… staff get very good tips :-)
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Don’t know about your bars but if my coffee shop was cash only I d lose loads of business, nearly all my customers under 30 don’t carry any cash.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Correct but places with a £210 set menu should never be paying minimum wage let alone less than that. If you can't afford to pay staff decent wages whilst running a restaurant in Mayfair, shut up shop and fuck off or put your hands in your own pocket until you can.
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I trained to get into the catering industry and every place i looked for a job was the same; shit hours, shit pay. If i was a kid now i'd do McDonalds management training, much better paid
 
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