johnny crossan
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Today's Times Take on Tevez & Balo
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cleavers
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Can you help those of us who have the image blocked at work ?
johnny crossan
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sorry - I don't have an online subscription or an OCR programme to convert to text and it's too long to type again I'm afraid.cleavers said:Can you help those of us who have the image blocked at work ?
Howling Wolf
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its basically saying that football has been globalised because of it's modern capitolist nature, with players and probably more interestingly saying the club don't have a meaningful connection with local town.
i think that for the players this is obvious, tevez and balloteli are men who are probably quite obsure in their own cultures let alone ours. more down to earth players e.g zab, don't appear to have the same problems and then also come accross as playing for the team rather than themselves. even back in the day, how many men in the team were manchester born and bred, they were all over the uk. now thats just been extended. this is no different to most aspects of our culture.
as for the club itself. yes they are trying to create a global brand, and it is true the club is changing very quickly and they obviously want to attract fans away from manchester, but i really do believe that they also have a community and family centred objective, as this will sit well with their other brands. yes all about money and globalisation, but not bad for manchester
i think that for the players this is obvious, tevez and balloteli are men who are probably quite obsure in their own cultures let alone ours. more down to earth players e.g zab, don't appear to have the same problems and then also come accross as playing for the team rather than themselves. even back in the day, how many men in the team were manchester born and bred, they were all over the uk. now thats just been extended. this is no different to most aspects of our culture.
as for the club itself. yes they are trying to create a global brand, and it is true the club is changing very quickly and they obviously want to attract fans away from manchester, but i really do believe that they also have a community and family centred objective, as this will sit well with their other brands. yes all about money and globalisation, but not bad for manchester
Sigh
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*whoever wrote this shit*
Please explain how, "I am not happy in Manchester", and "I do not like the city...[but] the city is not to my tastes" constitutes "heaping opprobrium" and "taking fire...[at] the city of Manchester" and "putting the boot in"?
Opprobrium? Fire? Boot? Are you angling for a job on Sly Sports News?
Please explain how, "I am not happy in Manchester", and "I do not like the city...[but] the city is not to my tastes" constitutes "heaping opprobrium" and "taking fire...[at] the city of Manchester" and "putting the boot in"?
Opprobrium? Fire? Boot? Are you angling for a job on Sly Sports News?
cleavers
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Thanks, and yes its pretty obvious, and nothing new. Back to the 60/70's (and earlier) players came from outside the City, many from Scotland, Ireland or Wales, no links with Manchester. The difference is they often came from similar or worse cultures/climates, the difference now is that many come from warmer climates, and very different cultures.blue_taff said:its basically saying that football has been globalised because of it's modern capitolist nature, with players and probably more interestingly saying the club don't have a meaningful connection with local town.
i think that for the players this is obvious, tevez and balloteli are men who are probably quite obsure in their own cultures let alone ours. more down to earth players e.g zab, don't appear to have the same problems and then also come accross as playing for the team rather than themselves. even back in the day, how many men in the team were manchester born and bred, they were all over the uk. now thats just been extended. this is no different to most aspects of our culture.
as for the club itself. yes they are trying to create a global brand, and it is true the club is changing very quickly and they obviously want to attract fans away from manchester, but i really do believe that they also have a community and family centred objective, as this will sit well with their other brands. yes all about money and globalisation, but not bad for manchester
"Globalising" of football wasn't started by MCFC, so why try and pin it on us, there are a number of clubs it could be pinned on.
As for liking the Manchester climate, I'm sure if they did a phone survey of manchester residents well over 50% would agree.
Modern top level footballers (local home grown or not), are papmered in the extreme, with a collection of staff sorting out their every whim, its little wonder they have no real connection with the man in the street. Some (a small number) like Zab, and Kompany actually embrace the culture they move to, and enjoy what it has to offer, rather than piss and moan about it.
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cleavers said:Can you help those of us who have the image blocked at work ?
basically it says that they have been hacking their phones
Why Always Ste
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Football has never been a trend setter, merely a reflection of society.
Journalists have always attempted to pin a social trend on Football but the reality is football is just a way of observing how society has changed, with the game just keeping up, tagging along.
an example could be with Football Hooliganism - small gangs were roaming the streets many years before, fighting each other. This trend obviously progressed onto the terraces.
The same applies with Employment.
Afro-Caribbean's trawled thousands of miles from their native country over here to drive our buses in the 50's, Their mercenary behaviour on behalf of our national transport system was deemed ok back then to drive the toff middle class journo's to Fleet Street every morning to write Xenophobic articles.
Mario Balotelli was ok whilst he was an Uncle Tom, shackles around his ankles serving these fools.
Jealously and Fear, Mario now can drive the expensive cars, work anywhere around the world, free from the chains of his ancestors - and these journalists don't like it.
Journalists have always attempted to pin a social trend on Football but the reality is football is just a way of observing how society has changed, with the game just keeping up, tagging along.
an example could be with Football Hooliganism - small gangs were roaming the streets many years before, fighting each other. This trend obviously progressed onto the terraces.
The same applies with Employment.
Afro-Caribbean's trawled thousands of miles from their native country over here to drive our buses in the 50's, Their mercenary behaviour on behalf of our national transport system was deemed ok back then to drive the toff middle class journo's to Fleet Street every morning to write Xenophobic articles.
Mario Balotelli was ok whilst he was an Uncle Tom, shackles around his ankles serving these fools.
Jealously and Fear, Mario now can drive the expensive cars, work anywhere around the world, free from the chains of his ancestors - and these journalists don't like it.