Top 4 guaranteed CL place from 2018

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Historical merit - errr, that's the current entry qualification criteria, right?

 

[mat]

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If UEFA want to be fair with that 'Historical Merit' Forest,Villa,Steua,Red Star Belgrade would be allowed in too.

 

[MarsLlama]

The issue with UEFA's coefficient is that I'd argue that in England, City, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool all have some sort of chance of reaching the later stages of the UCL. In Spain, there's Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla and Atletico. In Germany, Dortmund, Bayern, Monchengladbach and Bayer Leverkusen.

But in Italy, it's only really Juventus. At a stretch you can include Roma and the Milan clubs. France, just PSG. Russia and Ukraine... not really anyone is good enough to do it regularly. So I think there should be four clubs from England, four from Spain and four from Germany, sure, but maybesome of the other leagues are over represented.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

This sniffs a wee bit of bullshine! Does it mean allowing teams entry on the basis of 'faded glory'?

I think the answer after your post is, in fact, the answer....

 

[MillionMilesAway]

The issue with UEFA's coefficient is that I'd argue that in England, City, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool all have some sort of chance of reaching the later stages of the UCL. In Spain, there's Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla and Atletico. In Germany, Dortmund, Bayern, Monchengladbach and Bayer Leverkusen.

But in Italy, it's only really Juventus. At a stretch you can include Roma and the Milan clubs. France, just PSG. Russia and Ukraine... not really anyone is good enough to do it regularly. So I think there should be four clubs from England, four from Spain and four from Germany, sure, but maybesome of the other leagues are over represented.

Aside from the coeff not only relating to the CL, increasing the number from the highest ranked and uncoincidentally richest leagues is a bad idea. The rich get richer at the expense of others, even if it's the rare occasion when the 4th side doesn't make the group stages.

Reduce the other leagues? Maybe we should just call it a Superleague! The clubs beat UEFA up again, and it's not good for the game.

 

[bluethrunthru]

excellent - will make the rags annual 5th or 6th finish all the more funny

 

[Dutchvisitor]

Will surely mean lower viewership in many of the smaller EU countries. We like to watch our own teams compete against the best. How is it fair that PSV has to do 2 qualifiying rounds while the 4th team in italy/germany get instant groupstages. You can surely stop calling it championsleague if this change comes through.

 

[law74]

Another example of the rich dictating to the rest, though suchis the disparity in money in the game now, if a club from a "minor" league qualify even once it could destroy that league for 20 years

 

[dickie davies]

Will surely mean lower viewership in many of the smaller EU countries. We like to watch our own teams compete against the best. How is it fair that PSV has to do 2 qualifiying rounds while the 4th team in italy/germany get instant groupstages. You can surely stop calling it championsleague if this change comes through.

Since its creation, it should never have been called the Champions league as half the clubs that enter the group stage are not the Champions of their own nation