Tories have lost the vote of the young generation.

Manc in London said:
I'm simple because of what I posted?

I'll start following your posts. Maybe I will become enlightened. Of course, not enlightened in the way Marx envisaged it to be. More likely a form of 'enlightenment' consistent with the Scottish Enlightenment period (David Hume et al), in which improvement and virtue were key. I look forward to it.
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hilts said:
Simple people like simple ideas. Simple people tend to vote labour.
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Yet another wonderfully thought out and insightful post. We get that you hate labour, instead of belittling those that actually have an opinion why not just log off and go away.
 
blue cigar said:
Yet another wonderfully thought out and insightful post. We get that you hate labour, instead of belittling those that actually have an opinion why not just log off and go away.
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I do like how for the most part when stumped they feel a silly Gif or pic or maybe a bit of a personal insult will do.............I mean Jeremy Corbyn is invoking Marxism yet doesn't appear to be the head of a Marxist nor communist party. What the right don't get is that all this throwing mud around that is unfounded calling people Marxist, invoking the 1970's claiming that its relevant for today and calling Paul Mason a Gauleiter is just water off a ducks back and is the exact type of politics that turned off so many voted at the GE. Long may it continue and as the shoot themselves in the foot they can blame it all on the left.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I do like how for the most part when stumped they feel a silly Gif or pic or maybe a bit of a personal insult will do.............I mean Jeremy Corbyn is invoking Marxism yet doesn't appear to be the head of a Marxist nor communist party. What the right don't get is that all this throwing mud around that is unfounded calling people Marxist, invoking the 1970's claiming that its relevant for today and calling Paul Mason a Gauleiter is just water off a ducks back and is the exact type of politics that turned off so many voted at the GE. Long may it continue and as the shoot themselves in the foot they can blame it all on the left.
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That's quite the high horse you are on there, is one being slightly selective in your views on who does the mud Slinging on here.
 
inbetween said:
You are saying you are prepared to pay for others to have a free university education but you already are, most students will never pay off their student debt because it is wiped off after a certain time. The taxpayer will foot this bill and it will cost billions.

I went to university and got in just before the fees rose (£3k a year) so my debt is much less, I have no problem paying for my degree and wouldn't again. It has led to a job where I pay £110 a month for my 'debt' but then I pay this amount because I am deemed to be able to afford it.

May is changing the threshold which means the amount slides and the interest is less so that means I will pay a lot less a month than I do now. It will probably mean that I will never pay off my debt because the amount is so small it will take decades. For those who take on the full £9k a year, it sounds a lot but the sliding scale and longer repayment period afforded to this plan means even I will pay more despite having a fee debt that is less.

Any student who goes to university now and tells you they have this massive debt and can't afford to do anything is lying and shouldn't be at university because maths and logic clearly is not their strong point.

Saying fees should be free is pointless because at no point is a student disadvantaged or having to pay an amount that is not proportional to their earnings. If they earn nothing, they pay nothing... It would take now around the average UK salary just to start paying anything at all... I don't see the problem.

Make fees free and suddenly you have a black hole of £20bn+ to cover, an amount which funnily enough we will probably be covering anyway!
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So what you're saying is that you'd rather hand that bill to a future generation rather than deal with it ourselves?
 
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