UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[CC1]

Would the 2 year ban still apply if no games are played? If so we need to stop that appeal pronto.

Only if it was Dipperpool

 

[nmc]

For me the list would read:

1. United
2. Liverpool
3. Bayern
4. Real Madrid
5. Milan
6. Juventus

I have no particular antagonism towards Inter, Barca, Atletico, Napoli, Dortmund, etc.

Just to point out Barca never miss an opportunity to put the knife into us.

 

[Kazzydeyna]

Some football clubs will not survive the corona virus pandemic. The longer it goes on the greater the number of clubs which will not survive it and more and more the talk is not of "getting back to normal" but of having to come to terms with "a new normal". No-one knows what the consequences of this "new normal will be for our way of life and for a sport which depends on thousands of people coming together in a stadium we can't begin to imagine. Club revenues may take a very long time indeed to reach pre-pandemic levels, if they ever do. Clubs at every level are going to require owners and shareholders to put money into their club not only to maintain their status but simply to survive. UEFA's attempt to control the finances of clubs the length and breadth of Europe will stop being simply ridiculous and ignorant and will be ignorant and a dangerous existential threat, especially if it is applied inconsistently to suit the interests of a few clubs. In an extreme case, the cartel will not be threatening to break away, UEFA will be trying to persuade every other club to stay. The decision of West Ham's shareholders to put £30 million into the club is the first sign that some club owners will do what is necessary to support their club without waiting for vague details of UEFA's "relaxation of the rules" and if UEFA tries to do anything about it half the league at least will join us in court to stuff them.

I wouldn't bet on that mate. Many english clubs will vote against their own interests in order to protect their masters, the old elite

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I wouldn't bet on that mate. Many english clubs will vote against their own interests in order to protect their masters, the old elite

Some of them just like to feel part of the gang and cling on to the idea they are big clubs - villa recently, and Everton back at the formation of the PL spring to mind.

 

[give it to gordon]

surely the longer this goes on, the more unreasonable it becomes in not allowing the owner of a club to use his/her own money to keep his/her own club/business afloat. How can that be wrong ? I own a club and I wont allow it to go broke , oh hang on I cant save my club thanks to UEFA FFP ! even thought I have the funds to save it !

 

[Shaggy]

The vile clubs

Arsenal
Burnley
Chelsea
Liverpool
Man U
Spurs
Wolves
Bayern
Dortmund
Laverkusen
Ajax
PSV
Inter
Juve
Milan
Napoli
Atletico Madrid
Barca
Real Madrid
Valencia
Lyon
Marseille
PSG
Porto

 

[andyhinch]

The vile clubs

Arsenal
Burnley
Chelsea
Liverpool
Man U
Spurs
Wolves
Bayern
Dortmund
Laverkusen
Ajax
PSV
Inter
Juve
Milan
Napoli
Atletico Madrid
Barca
Real Madrid
Valencia
Lyon
Marseille
PSG
Porto

You missed off dirty Leeds @jimharri have a word.

 

[jimharri]

You missed off dirty Leeds @jimharri have a word.

He'll be getting pm'ed as to his future conduct. Definitely one to keep tabs on.

 

[KS55]

surely the longer this goes on, the more unreasonable it becomes in not allowing the owner of a club to use his/her own money to keep his/her own club/business afloat. How can that be wrong ? I own a club and I wont allow it to go broke , oh hang on I cant save my club thanks to UEFA FFP ! even thought I have the funds to save it !

If FFP Rules are not relaxed, owners will be perfectly free to save their own clubs but will be banned from UEFA comps for a while. So what?

 

[Grassland Blue]

surely the longer this goes on, the more unreasonable it becomes in not allowing the owner of a club to use his/her own money to keep his/her own club/business afloat. How can that be wrong ? I own a club and I wont allow it to go broke , oh hang on I cant save my club thanks to UEFA FFP ! even thought I have the funds to save it !

This post nails it.
In my opinion, the only reason that FFP exists in its' current guise is to prevent 'upstart' clubs competing with the establishment and even if said 'upstart' clubs were to fold (even if their owners had plenty of cash in hand to save them) the establishment would only pay lip service to those clubs demise. I feel that privately they would be celebrating the weakening/demise of another potential challenger.
As an example of this I would suggest you take a look at Stoke City. They have a wealthy sponsor who is prepared to put money into the club, yet isn't able to do so.