UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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SilverFox2 said:
Farmers the same the whole world over, anything to avoid paying vat.
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Grippiest bugger I know is a farmer's son. He offered me a handful of peanuts once. "Thanks", said I then went "These are a bit stale". I know there's great website where you can out of date food cheap! Never mind VAT, I'm still waiting on my holiday pay.
 
We'll surely it's exactly the same, it was a long time ago and the parties came to an agreed settlement. Nothing to see, move on.
What do you mean No?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just thinking the same. Why couldn't UEFA have offered the same rationale as the FA did?
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I wonder if they jumped too quick and tried to back track but khaldoon is having none of it? City’s name has been dragged through the mud since sheik mansour took over and it seemed in the summer it had finally pissed them off!
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just thinking the same. Why couldn't UEFA have offered the same rationale as the FA did?
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Presumably because UEFA regs state the time period to investigate in? And that the allegation (if proveable) might read onto the original decision?
The IC ran out of time anyway, so I could see UEFA using that to kill the matter.
 
chaddblue. You're probably right about Liverpool hacking into our club. Surely you don't expect UEFA to do anything about it. They will do absolutely nothing, as along as both Messers Parry and Gill are involved in UEFA. Afterall they are the from the two darling clubs in England namely the rags and Livarpool
 
King KdB of Belgium said:
chaddblue. You're probably right about Liverpool hacking into our club. Surely you don't expect UEFA to do anything about it. They will do absolutely nothing, as along as both Messers Parry and Gill are involved in UEFA. Afterall they are the from the two darling clubs in England namely the rags and Livarpool
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They both hate each other but as the saying goes "my enemy's enemy is my friend".
 
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SebastianBlue said:
Me thinks Ziegler has been given quite a bit of proprietary information.


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The link to the Times story is here, but it's behind a paywall - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...commendation-court-documents-reveal-30rw9v5tf

However, you can access two articles per week for free if, as I do, you have a registration with them.

Obviously, there are rules about copying and pasting on here so I'll add just a couple of interesting extracts. There seems to have been a lot of bluster in response from Yves Leterme, who's quoted as answering MCFC at length, including the following: "Your allegations are groundless in the merits and unacceptable in tone. Please be advised that I will not continue such an exchange of correspondence and that I will not respond further to groundless accusations directed against me personally and/or against my fellow members of the IC."

And the last paragraph of Ziegler's story reads as follows: "The CAS findings describe the alleged leaking of information about the proceedings against Manchester City as “worrisome” and added: “It puzzles the panel how the CFCB Chief Investigator could be so confident to ‘vehemently reject [MCFC’s] allegations of unlawful activities’ but dismissed the club’s claim that Uefa’s finance bodies could no longer deal with the case impartially”.
 
petrusha said:
The link to the Times story is here, but it's behind a paywall - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...commendation-court-documents-reveal-30rw9v5tf

However, you can access two articles per week for free if, as I do, you have a registration with them.

Obviously, there are rules about copying and pasting on here so I'll add just a couple of interesting extracts. There seems to have been a lot of bluster in response from Yves Leterme, who's quoted as answering MCFC at length, including the following: "Your allegations are groundless in the merits and unacceptable in tone. Please be advised that I will not continue such an exchange of correspondence and that I will not respond further to groundless accusations directed against me personally and/or against my fellow members of the IC."

And the last paragraph of Ziegler's story reads as follows: "The CAS findings describe the alleged leaking of information about the proceedings against Manchester City as “worrisome” and added: “It puzzles the panel how the CFCB Chief Investigator could be so confident to ‘vehemently reject [MCFC’s] allegations of unlawful activities’ but dismissed the club’s claim that Uefa’s finance bodies could no longer deal with the case impartially”.
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Yes, I added a link to the original article above, and appreciate your following the rules regarding not copying-and-pasting in entire articles. :-)

The entire affair reeks of someone (or multiple people) at UEFA, or connected with those at UEFA, being privy to the Chief Investigator’s leanings and wanting to release this information in advance of any actual action (which may have never included an actual competition ban) in order to materially damage the club’s brand and standing. The CI may not have been aware of the leak at the time — that could be legitimate — but their response after it was revealed does not make sense. There is absolutely no reason he could be “confident” in his rejection of our complaint, nor of the lack of unlawful action on the part of someone directly or indirectly affiliated with his investigation. It screams of the CI and others being instructed to cover it up as best as they can.

Now, who would benefit from such an action, I wonder?
 
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