UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Mid Wales blue]

A: Sheikh Mansour & all his advisors were daft enough to break the law in an obvious manner thus UEFA will come down on us like a ton of bricks.
B: They weren't. UEFA find nothing & clear us.
C: UEFA have to find 'something' to get us on, so change the rules, again & fine us for some misdemeanor..
D: They can't get us on anything, so make do with spreading rumours about us being guilty but they can't do anything about it.

I recon A & B are non starters.
I'm going D, with a bit of C.

Think that should read “enough to break the rules”.

 

[Centurions]

I don't know the outcome but we're going to be put through the mill again. Your argument is not with me.

I wasn't aware we were having an argument bud, I'm just trying to understand your thinking as you seem to have already given up.

 

[flb]

I feel like there’s minimal chance we’re getting off lightly here.

They are out to do us and probably think it’s their last chance to do so. Without a doubt these leaks were orchestrated so that this could happen.

As well as some harsh punishments, they’re probably hoping the knock on effects impact the the futures of players and manager.

It’s not going to be pretty but I think the difference with last time is that our reaction will be more volatile and we won’t take this as lightly as we did last time. There will be a strong reaction.

The Statement from the club speaks volumes imo,we’ve openly flung the doors open and welcomed them in.

UEFA need to be 100% certain of their allegations.

 

[schfc6]

I'd think so, from what's known.

I can see how UEFA have any power to demand to know how Etihad et al funded our sponsorship. And as PB has said, it’s irrelevant when the money came from if the deals were considered fair value!

 

[citizen_maine]

I feel like there’s minimal chance we’re getting off lightly here.

They are out to do us and probably think it’s their last chance to do so.

That works both ways though. This might be their last desperate throw of the dice

 

[aguero93:20]

The game is up. Doesn't matter what we do now.

England's three biggest football club fanbases will be mobilised against us with a barrage of claims. They will be whipped up and cajoled by key people in the media. UEFA and the Premier League have broken. We'll be left with an emasculated football club when this done. That is how politics works in this country now. Now you know what it is like to be a 2nd class citizen in this country.

The facts do not matter. This is the era of social media. We have been set up as the guilty party and they are cleaning up the game. In reality it is the other way around.

I'm not giving up of course. I've endured worse as a City fan. But I know what is coming.

I just hope that when they are finished with us I still have a football club left to support. It would not surprise me at all that our officials etc will be disqualified from football. To make this work they have to drag us through the mud and they will. The process started a decade ago, but almost overnight we were hijacked and I never saw it coming.

I'm like you all. I was there at all our darkest and greatest moments over the last 40 years but it feels like its coming to an end. How can we go on beyond this when the game will no longer feel fair, and yet I feel we are obliged to otherwise we are broken and the past meant nothing. It does. Dickov scoring that goal, it meant something.

Apologies for posting this. I've just let the nonsense flow but I am sickened with the football authorities.

Of course I am going to the game later today as I always have. And I always will. I don't know how I will feel after the game. Hopefully my determination will be doubled and my love for City will be redoubled, but this morning I am tired.

The worst thing about this all is that we will be painted as the villain when in truth Manchester city represent the best in football in so many ways but how do you deal with these preachers in the press and this social media world we live in. The witch-hunt nears its conclusion. The witch is being dragged to the water. It does not give up on life as it is dragged to the water but it feels very angry indeed.

We are owned by an Arab. Now you are all metaphorically Arab and you will feel injustice. it is about to be served.

Apologies for the heart-felt rant. I'm truly angry and don't know what to do as the wolves close in. Hopefully my team today will bite back, but I fear it's temporary.

Something has to be done boys. I don't know what it is but we can't allow this club of ours that we have loved all our lives to be treated like this. What is to be Done?

Fucking happy clapper.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Think that should read “enough to break the rules”.

Not according to stuff I've read recently. If true, hat suggests that it would also be illegal, therefore, even if it did happen, fuck all chance it happened in any form UEFA would be capable of finding out & more important & better qualified people than them would be interested in it. Strangely enough, it appears nobody else is actually interested other than a bent cartel.

 

[City Man]

My take on it, a fight to the death. This has been rumbling on for years now and they just won't let it lie. This goes away something else will pop up or they will invent more rules. FFP being defeated in the courts is the first step and hopefully Dupont soon wins that case. Then dig up the dirt on everyone of our enemies, there is bound to be some and bring them down. Even if there isn't just throw the mud, some always sticks. Play them at their own game.

Where exactly is this Dupont case? The only stuff I can find online is 18 months old and says he lost the case.

 

[Neville Kneville]

My take on it, a fight to the death. This has been rumbling on for years now and they just won't let it lie. This goes away something else will pop up or they will invent more rules. FFP being defeated in the courts is the first step and hopefully Dupont soon wins that case. Then dig up the dirt on everyone of our enemies, there is bound to be some and bring them down. Even if there isn't just throw the mud, some always sticks. Play them at their own game.

I honestly don't believe for one second there will be any other outcome than UEFA whispering behind our backs that 'there's no smoke without fire' but they can't 'prove it'. And that will feed the media puppets of the enemy clubs, forever.

And that's what they are 'The Enemy'.

They are not 'competitors' or 'rivals' they are the fucking ENEMY. It's time they were treated as such instead of trying to placate them. We can smile & be gracious in public.

Behind their backs, we should do to them, exactly what they are continually trying to do to us.

 

[Centurions]

So are Der Spiegel, Duncan Castles and any number of City hating hacks.

If this is a clarkie or a joke that I don't get then apologies.

If however it isn't and this is just a continuation of your apparent dislike for PB then I have to say you're coming across as one weird dude.

 

[aguero93:20]

Where exactly is this Dupont case? The only stuff I can find online is 18 months old and says he lost the case.

Wrong. The ECJ sent the case back to the Belgian courts to rule on as it didn't need to be done by the ECJ. Several cockroaches got excited and blew their load thinking the case had been thrown out.

 

[flb]

I honestly don't believe for one second there will be any other outcome than UEFA whispering behind our backs that 'there's no smoke without fire' but they can't 'prove it'. And that will feed the media puppets of the enemy clubs, forever.

And that's what they are 'The Enemy'.

They are not 'competitors' or 'rivals' they are the fucking ENEMY. It's time they were treated as such instead of trying to placate them. We can smile & be gracious in public.

Behind their backs, we should do to them, exactly what they are continually trying to do to us.

I’d be very surprised if the club would let these allegations rumble on in the future,imo UEFA have bitten off more they can chew this time around, they have been pressured into this investigation by other football clubs, I’d say it’s the last thing they want tbh, they surely must know now by the recent statements from the club that the gloves are off.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Understandably there are extreme feelings running on this thread.

FFP is a sham and the rules are wrong. We may have broken those rules and given the authorities a stick to beat us with. This is unfair but they will still do it.

Those that are saying we will sue the authorities into oblivion are probably wrong.

Those that are saying we are finished as a club or a major player are probably wrong.

The authorities have to be seen to be doing something. We will be investigated and, if we have done something wrong we will receive a punishment like Chelsea and Galatasaray and Barcelona. It will be a long process and a set back but then we carry on.

It’s a major pain and boring too but it is what it is. The PL and UEFA and City won’t want this either.

A bit of perspective needed. Lessons regarding emails also have to be learnt.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

I'd like to remind City fans that City ain't dead yet! The passive attitude that seems to think that our club is some wet lettuce that can be kicked around at will by a gang of asset strippers and failed executives from ailing companies is not one I share. Our owner and the people he employs seem quite capable of taking care of themselves - and our club. Let's remember that the club seems remarkably untroubled by news of the "investigations" and insists that the club has done nothing wrong. There does seem to be a conspiracy against the club but I think this is the result of panic at what Pep has achieved at the club in only 2 and a bit years but I'm not yet convinced UEFA is still part of it. Even if it is Abu Dabi still has recourse to the law and seems in pretty good shape to ruin UEFA, the FA, the PL and FIFA on the way to a victory in the courts. Cheer up - we're still alive and kicking!

 

[City Man]

Wrong. The ECJ sent the case back to the Belgian courts to rule on as it didn't need to be done by the ECJ. Several cockroaches got excited and blew their load thinking the case had been thrown out.

OK thanks.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I’d be very surprised if the club would let these allegations rumble on in the future,imo UEFA have bitten off more they can chew this time around, they have been pressured into this investigation by other football clubs, I’d say it’s the last thing they want tbh, they surely must know now by the recent statements from the club that the gloves are off.

UEFA though, can say they found 'no evidence' of rules being broken, or just fine us a token for something they make up.

Then when David Gill meets other similar sharks, he can just be 'overheard' by pet reporters, discussing how they 'know' we did it, but can't prove it.

I will be shocked if UEFA give out any statement whicb exonerates us.

I'm fucking sure though, that there are huge skeletons in the cupboards of rags, dippers, Bayern etc, which can be found if 'someone' really wants to. And as for UEFA...

 

[mcfcphil]

I'm fucking sure though, that there are huge skeletons in the cupboards of rags, dippers, Bayern etc, which can be found if 'someone' really wants to. And as for UEFA...

I would be stunned if city don’t already have a raft of information that would be hugely damaging to other clubs and UEFA that they could legitimately present as evidence in any kind of hearing UEFA wish to conduct.

If UEFA and other clubs want to play this out in public then they don’t have any control over what evidence City want to use to defend themselves.

 

[Mid Wales blue]

Not according to stuff I've read recently. If true, hat suggests that it would also be illegal, therefore, even if it did happen, fuck all chance it happened in any form UEFA would be capable of finding out & more important & better qualified people than them would be interested in it. Strangely enough, it appears nobody else is actually interested other than a bent cartel.

Thanks for the explanation.

It’s my understanding that currently, we are being investigated by the football ruling bodies “only” for possible breach of FFP rules.

 

[citizen_maine]

UEFA though, can say they found 'no evidence' of rules being broken, or just fine us a token for something they make up.

Then when David Gill meets other similar sharks, he can just be 'overheard' by pet reporters, discussing how they 'know' we did it, but can't prove it.

I will be shocked if UEFA give out any statement whicb exonerates us.

I'm fucking sure though, that there are huge skeletons in the cupboards of rags, dippers, Bayern etc, which can be found if 'someone' really wants to. And as for UEFA...

and we can just let them know that we know where they skeletons are buried, and are more than happy to get out the shovels if they continue with their course of action

 

[Neville Kneville]

Thanks for the explanation.

It’s my understanding that currently, we are being investigated by the football ruling bodies “only” for possible breach of FFP rules.

Exactly.