UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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I get that most believe it was thrown out because UEFA hadn't made a decision yet but have the CAS said why City's appeal was inadmissible in a statement yet?
 
I think get that most believe it was thrown out because UEFA hadn't made a decision yet but have the CAS said why City's appeal was inadmissible in a statement yet?
They said it was inadmissible as we hadn't exhausted other legal avenues yet. Which means UEFA hadn't made a formal decision, at which point we can resurrect the appeal.
 
They said it was inadmissible as we hadn't exhausted other legal avenues yet. Which means UEFA hadn't made a formal decision, at which point we can resurrect the appeal.

But wouldn't we have known that at the outset and, assuming that to be the case, why did we bother with what we must have known could only be considered a premature submission?
 
But wouldn't we have known that at the outset and, assuming that to be the case, why did we bother with what we must have known could only be considered a premature submission?
I'd guess that we felt UEFA's Investigatory Chamber had completely overridden due process in their haste to lay charges before the 5-year limitation kicks in.

Say you have a case in court and the judge says to the lawyers and jury. "Look, I've got a few days off from tomorrow so I won't be holding a proper trial. I'll just summarise what I see as the relevant evidence, you can go away for a few days and consider it and then I'll come back next week to hear the verdict". If you were the defence team would you wait for the verdict before you took action against a blatant mistrial?
 
But wouldn't we have known that at the outset and, assuming that to be the case, why did we bother with what we must have known could only be considered a premature submission?
It's certainly arguable that, given the public declaration that we had been found guilty by the IC and passed up for a sentence more severe than they were empowered to pass, that their decision without due process was prejudicial to our reputation even if the case was subsequently dismissed for some reason by the AC.
 
The significance of 2068 is that that is the date when a Russian supercomputer has forecast that the Earth will be hit by a near Earth asteroid.



My son will be the same age that I am now,55.
Does that mean I should go out buy a Ferrari tomorrow, how long does it take to repossess these days?
 
It's probably not going to strike but all of them are capable of doing so in time....see the Moon. Craters everywhere. There are craters on Earth too but most disrupted by erosion, and plate tectonics. The Earth cannibalises its own crust this destroying evidence of most impacts except on very old cratons, but the Moon has preserved its craters because the only erosion is space weather, and of course meteorite flux which after a while overprints impacts like rain on a pavement eventually washes out all the raindrops. There was thought to be flood basalt eruptions about 3 Billion years ago on the Moon which are the dark (mare-seas) you see on the Moon's surface and they are relatively flat. The far side of the moon lacks these flood basalts, and that's quite interesting. Why? Why does the far side of the moon differ from the near side? This is a very important point for blue mooners.

The Moon contains secrets to the Earth's past which is why we must go back, and indeed we are. Though whether we need human's on the moon I don't know. In 2024, the US plans to send a woman on to the surface of the Moon. The Chinese are there now, at the Lunar South Pole (robots -not people), the site of possibly the biggest impact basin in the solar system - hidden from us because it's on the SOuth Pole / far side. Known to lunar scientists as the South pole aitken basin. Important as lunar mantle maybe exposed on the moon's surface. The Lunar poles are thought to contain water ice, and are amongst the coldest places in the Solar system - reason being that the Moon (unlike the Earth) rotates on an axis which is almost exactly perpendicular to the plane of is orbit, so the craters are permanently exposed to the the deep cold of space. Water ice may fuel the journey to Mars - hydrogen, and it maybe possible to grow plants on the Moon. I believe the Chinese have grown a seedling on the Moon.
The answer to your question is probably that the moon is gravity locked so the same face always points at the earth. As the orbit is slightly oval (not circular) it causes the moons earth facing surface to be flexed in a slight teardeop shape - when the moon was geologically active 3 billion years ago, this caused the crust to crack and weaken and basalt to flow across the surface. Similar features are vissible on gravity locked moons of the gas and ice giants.
 
It's probably not going to strike but all of them are capable of doing so in time....see the Moon. Craters everywhere. There are craters on Earth too but most disrupted by erosion, and plate tectonics. The Earth cannibalises its own crust this destroying evidence of most impacts except on very old cratons, but the Moon has preserved its craters because the only erosion is space weather, and of course meteorite flux which after a while overprints impacts like rain on a pavement eventually washes out all the raindrops. There was thought to be flood basalt eruptions about 3 Billion years ago on the Moon which are the dark (mare-seas) you see on the Moon's surface and they are relatively flat. The far side of the moon lacks these flood basalts, and that's quite interesting. Why? Why does the far side of the moon differ from the near side? This is a very important point for blue mooners.

The Moon contains secrets to the Earth's past which is why we must go back, and indeed we are. Though whether we need human's on the moon I don't know. In 2024, the US plans to send a woman on to the surface of the Moon. The Chinese are there now, at the Lunar South Pole (robots -not people), the site of possibly the biggest impact basin in the solar system - hidden from us because it's on the SOuth Pole / far side. Known to lunar scientists as the South pole aitken basin. Important as lunar mantle maybe exposed on the moon's surface. The Lunar poles are thought to contain water ice, and are amongst the coldest places in the Solar system - reason being that the Moon (unlike the Earth) rotates on an axis which is almost exactly perpendicular to the plane of is orbit, so the craters are permanently exposed to the the deep cold of space. Water ice may fuel the journey to Mars - hydrogen, and it maybe possible to grow plants on the Moon. I believe the Chinese have grown a seedling on the Moon.
Have you been talking to Deep Thought again, Marvin?
 
It's probably not going to strike but all of them are capable of doing so in time....see the Moon. Craters everywhere. There are craters on Earth too but most disrupted by erosion, and plate tectonics. The Earth cannibalises its own crust this destroying evidence of most impacts except on very old cratons, but the Moon has preserved its craters because the only erosion is space weather, and of course meteorite flux which after a while overprints impacts like rain on a pavement eventually washes out all the raindrops. There was thought to be flood basalt eruptions about 3 Billion years ago on the Moon which are the dark (mare-seas) you see on the Moon's surface and they are relatively flat. The far side of the moon lacks these flood basalts, and that's quite interesting. Why? Why does the far side of the moon differ from the near side? This is a very important point for blue mooners.

The Moon contains secrets to the Earth's past which is why we must go back, and indeed we are. Though whether we need human's on the moon I don't know. In 2024, the US plans to send a woman on to the surface of the Moon. The Chinese are there now, at the Lunar South Pole (robots -not people), the site of possibly the biggest impact basin in the solar system - hidden from us because it's on the SOuth Pole / far side. Known to lunar scientists as the South pole aitken basin. Important as lunar mantle maybe exposed on the moon's surface. The Lunar poles are thought to contain water ice, and are amongst the coldest places in the Solar system - reason being that the Moon (unlike the Earth) rotates on an axis which is almost exactly perpendicular to the plane of is orbit, so the craters are permanently exposed to the the deep cold of space. Water ice may fuel the journey to Mars - hydrogen, and it maybe possible to grow plants on the Moon. I believe the Chinese have grown a seedling on the Moon.
Good read! are you a fellow geologist by chance Marvin?
 
The answer to your question is probably that the moon is gravity locked so the same face always points at the earth. As the orbit is slightly oval (not circular) it causes the moons earth facing surface to be flexed in a slight teardeop shape - when the moon was geologically active 3 billion years ago, this caused the crust to crack and weaken and basalt to flow across the surface. Similar features are vissible on gravity locked moons of the gas and ice giants.
I think the magma preferentially broke the near side crust because it was thinner, but why would it be thinner? A tidal bulge would indeed flex the moon (and Earth) but the shape is symmetric (hence we have two tides a day on Earth - in most places).

There is a theory that the Moon became very quickly tidally locked to the Earth after a giant impact and that this happened before the Earth cooled and hence the near side of the Moon was heated by the Earth and solids condensed at a faster rate on the far side.
 
I think the magma preferentially broke the near side crust because it was thinner, but why would it be thinner? A tidal bulge would indeed flex the moon (and Earth) but the shape is symmetric (hence we have two tides a day on Earth - in most places).

There is a theory that the Moon became very quickly tidally locked to the Earth after a giant impact and that this happened before the Earth cooled and hence the near side of the Moon was heated by the Earth and solids condensed at a faster rate on the far side.

This sounds like we’re getting off with it.
 
The answer to your question is probably that the moon is gravity locked so the same face always points at the earth. As the orbit is slightly oval (not circular) it causes the moons earth facing surface to be flexed in a slight teardeop shape - when the moon was geologically active 3 billion years ago, this caused the crust to crack and weaken and basalt to flow across the surface. Similar features are vissible on gravity locked moons of the gas and ice giants.

you are living up to your name !
 
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