UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[jrb]

I suspect that will only happen upon conclusion of the findings ... to our satisfaction.

True. Shame that.

I’d love to read a warts and all book about UEFA + the European Royalty Cartel clubs V City one day.

And how the bullied club won in the end against all the odds.

 

[kaz7]

Me thinks Ziegler has been given quite a bit of proprietary information.




Source article from The Times:

Finally someone on our side

Sounds fiesty from us which i like but they want to find us guilty and chuck us out,i have no faith that they won't do it anyway

 

[jrb]

Conn on the case. He doesn't add much but the part I find odd is the last bit saying that CAS believe the decision to charge us could still be considered impartial even if a member of the AC had been the source of the leak.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-fury-ffp-case-leaks-court-documents-uefa-cas

As usual Conn finishes with....

The AC was understood to have heard the charges last month, and a decision is awaited. If it finds City guilty of deceiving Uefa over its finances it has the power to ban them from the Champions League, as recommended by the IC.

Just to remind everyone about a possible ban.

Conn. #c***t

 

[kaz7]

The link to the Times story is here, but it's behind a paywall - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...commendation-court-documents-reveal-30rw9v5tf

However, you can access two articles per week for free if, as I do, you have a registration with them.

Obviously, there are rules about copying and pasting on here so I'll add just a couple of interesting extracts. There seems to have been a lot of bluster in response from Yves Leterme, who's quoted as answering MCFC at length, including the following: "Your allegations are groundless in the merits and unacceptable in tone. Please be advised that I will not continue such an exchange of correspondence and that I will not respond further to groundless accusations directed against me personally and/or against my fellow members of the IC."

And the last paragraph of Ziegler's story reads as follows: "The CAS findings describe the alleged leaking of information about the proceedings against Manchester City as “worrisome” and added: “It puzzles the panel how the CFCB Chief Investigator could be so confident to ‘vehemently reject [MCFC’s] allegations of unlawful activities’ but dismissed the club’s claim that Uefa’s finance bodies could no longer deal with the case impartially”.

Our tone,the cheeky fuckers

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Conn on the case. He doesn't add much but the part I find odd is the last bit saying that CAS believe the decision to charge us could still be considered impartial even if a member of the AC had been the source of the leak.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-fury-ffp-case-leaks-court-documents-uefa-cas

It seems a pretty fair piece.

Whichever order things happened in, presumably there is no certainty that it proved an inability to assess a charge fairly. Innocent until proven guilty, I guess.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

As usual Conn finishes with....

The AC was understood to have heard the charges last month, and a decision is awaited. If it finds City guilty of deceiving Uefa over its finances it has the power to ban them from the Champions League, as recommended by the IC.

Just to remind everyone about a possible ban.

Conn. #c***t

It would be a bit odd to say how annoyed City are without referring to what one cause was. Seems reasonable to include it, and the AC does have the power to levy that punishment.

 

[M18CTID]

Walk into any pub and get talking to any rag dipper or fan of any club for that matter and the first thing they’ll bring up is ffp make that any bar in the world that’s what we’re known for being cheats because of these bent bastards

Funny because I speak to a lot of fans of other clubs when following City around the country and I can’t remember the last time any of them brought it up. Most match-going fans don’t give a fuck about FFP or the ongoing situation with City and UEFA. It’s the clueless fuckwits who wouldn’t know what the inside of a football ground looks like who spout off about it the most, often brainwashed by some dickhead journalists who have painted a totally biased picture based on unsubstantiated bollocks.

 

[Prater70]

Thank you Blue Mist. So it's been a good day for us.

 

[Manc in London]

Weren’t they ruled inadmissible because no judgement had been reached and not because they were without foundation?

That's what I thought. It appeared to be 'first of all, the process has run its course'

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

We are defo it getting banned here. Which will then be over turned. UEFA are backed in a corner

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Finally someone on our side

Sounds fiesty from us which i like but they want to find us guilty and chuck us out,i have no faith that they won't do it anyway

I hope they find us guilty and ban us, it's the only way the shit really hits the fan.

We prove our innocence in Court, then go for damages and any individual's we have evidence about.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Isn't it strange that two of the world's most respected news newspapers/websites (The Times, New York Times) have carried a number of major stories in the last few weeks about corruption in football (which don't show City in a bad light) and the main media firms in this country (including the BBC and SKY) have more or less ignored them? This at a time when sports journalists are struggling to find stories because most top teams are on a winter break. Where are the tweets and re-tweets from Roan and Stone? Where are the Guardian and the Daily Mail. They all gave huge coverage when one of Bielsa's staff at Leeds was spotted watching a rival club's training.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

I have always thought, since Khaldoon made that incredibly strong statement last year about other clubs "briefing about us to the press" and saying that we always find out who is responsible, that we have an Ace card up our sleeves. I believe City know who leaked the story from UEFA and I'm certain (from what I know) that the main culprits have come from the LFC camp. Gill may have done his bit from time to time but the main route for the smear campaign we have endured for years has come from the bottom of the M62, with sanction from the USA.

Very much agree with this.
To reinforce our innocence and to implicate the real villains of the piece, we would have to name and shame the leaking culprits. especially if they are linked to a rival club in whose interests they were acting, while masquerading as an investigator in an inquiry which could result in gaining a commercial or sporting advantage for themselves.
This is the problem. We cannot expect UEFA to conduct an investigation into a branch of themselves ( well not a fair one anyway... see trump’s impeachment for a clue as how that would go), but does theCAS have the remit to hold such an investigation and demand documents and compel witnesses to testify?
The other route to go down would be ‘do as you would be done by’ and leak names and allegations, much like the daily mail did a few years back when they published the names and photos of the Stephen Lawrence suspects (the only time I’ve ever admired anything that shitbag of a paper ever did), and issued them with a ‘see you in court’ challenge where we can get it all out in the public domain....if they have the guts.

 

[Manc in London]

Funny because I speak to a lot of fans of other clubs when following City around the country and I can’t remember the last time any of them brought it up. Most match-going fans don’t give a fuck about FFP or the ongoing situation with City and UEFA. It’s the clueless fuckwits who wouldn’t know what the inside of a football ground looks like who spout off about it the most, often brainwashed by some dickhead journalists who have painted a totally biased picture based on unsubstantiated bollocks.

I live down south and have heard it plenty. Usually by a nobhead in a pub who has been listening to a conversation I am having with friends.

Friends and relatives of the missus' family too. Almost always Spurs and Arsenal fans. Well, they have to make themselves feel better as their teams are currently shite.

 

[nmc]

Isn't it strange that two of the world's most respected news newspapers/websites (The Times, New York Times) have carried a number of major stories in the last few weeks about corruption in football (which don't show City in a bad light) and the main media firms in this country (including the BBC and SKY) have more or less ignored them? This at a time when sports journalists are struggling to find stories because most top teams are on a winter break. Where are the tweets and re-tweets from Roan and Stone? Where are the Guardian and the Daily Mail. They all gave huge coverage when one of Bielsa's staff at Leeds was spotted watching a rival club's training.

The so called journalists you refer to are just on a gravy train - lapping up hospitality etc. You’ll get no objectivity from them. Corrupt and rotten to the core that lot.

 

[Bald fraud]

Funny because I speak to a lot of fans of other clubs when following City around the country and I can’t remember the last time any of them brought it up. Most match-going fans don’t give a fuck about FFP or the ongoing situation with City and UEFA. It’s the clueless fuckwits who wouldn’t know what the inside of a football ground looks like who spout off about it the most, often brainwashed by some dickhead journalists who have painted a totally biased picture based on unsubstantiated bollocks.

Yep it’s the armchair sky sports season ticket holders who believe all the shite the sun talk sport and sky sports news propaganda.

 

[aguero93:20]

We are defo it getting banned here. Which will then be over turned. UEFA are backed in a corner

As a matter of principle I can't accept the legal opinion of a talking penguin.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I have always thought, since Khaldoon made that incredibly strong statement last year about other clubs "briefing about us to the press" and saying that we always find out who is responsible, that we have an Ace card up our sleeves. I believe City know who leaked the story from UEFA and I'm certain (from what I know) that the main culprits have come from the LFC camp. Gill may have done his bit from time to time but the main route for the smear campaign we have endured for years has come from the bottom of the M62, with sanction from the USA.

Tariq Panja is getting most of the leaks. Panja worked at the MEN and had a good source at the swamp. Now he's getting stories from a senior source at UEFA. John Holmes, let alone Sherlock, could work that out.

 

[kaz7]

Isn't it strange that two of the world's most respected news newspapers/websites (The Times, New York Times) have carried a number of major stories in the last few weeks about corruption in football (which don't show City in a bad light) and the main media firms in this country (including the BBC and SKY) have more or less ignored them? This at a time when sports journalists are struggling to find stories because most top teams are on a winter break. Where are the tweets and re-tweets from Roan and Stone? Where are the Guardian and the Daily Mail. They all gave huge coverage when one of Bielsa's staff at Leeds was spotted watching a rival club's training.

Because pep loves him and so might recommend him for his job when he leaves
Getting in early with the cheat narrative

 

[Dirty Harry]

Tariq Panja is getting most of the leaks. Panja worked at the MEN and had a good source at the swamp. Now he's getting stories from a senior source at UEFA. John Holmes, let alone Sherlock, could work that out.

Senor Source ? Is he Spanish then ?

Seriously that suggests to me that either someone has out back, or, they don’t like the underhand way UEFA are going about their business with us ?