UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Rammy Blue]

Apparently he has tweeted over 640,000 times during his Twitter tenure.

This would suggest..

A) A loner
B) Needs for recognition
C) Has no partner or sex life
D) Lives on his own
E) Narcissistic
F) Has no life
G) Needy
H) All of the above

I) Micro-penis

 

[kaz7]

Apparently he has tweeted over 640,000 times during his Twitter tenure.

This would suggest..

A) A loner
B) Needs for recognition
C) Has no partner or sex life
D) Lives on his own
E) Narcissistic
F) Has no life
G) Needy
H) All of the above

Thats me on here lol

 

[Bluemanc100]

I think FFP was a conspiracy directed against only us from the start.

UEFA got us to commit to a system all our enemies were moderating.

One they got us to sign up to FFP they began their objective of trying to destroy us.

Forensically going over all our sponsor revenue looking for discrepancies.

I hope we take this all the way to the very top.

I believe it was actually designed to stop Chelsea but they and Abramhovic sneaked in the door before the rules went live.. overnight he became an advocate (as he was then part of the clique)

 

[domalino]

"They relied more on out of context stolen emails than all the other evidence that we provided about what actually happened".
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I think that really is the smoking gun.

We already know at least 1 of the emails has discrepancies to what actually happened. People discussing something happening isnt proof of something actually having happened.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

would love for someone to give rob harris a slap. hopefully the club ban the arse

 

[mcfcphil]

Apparently he has tweeted over 640,000 times during his Twitter tenure.

This would suggest..

A) A loner
B) Needs for recognition
C) Has no partner or sex life
D) Lives on his own
E) Narcissistic
F) Has no life
G) Needy
H) All of the above

To spend that much time on social media simply can't be good for anyone, no matter your job or reason for doing so.
Your grasp on the real world must be seriously compromised if you spend so little time engaging with real people.

 

[sir baconface]

I’ve actually been thinking about this myself.

We were cleared and signed off by UEFA from 2013-14 up to 2015-16 for complying with FFP in that period. But it was complying with FFP in respect of not incurring losses in that time period.

UEFA say they have “evidence” that we have gone against FFP regulations in that time period in another way than not incurring losses... City say that can’t be looked at as we were already signed off by UEFA for that time period but are City right? Were were we signed off for all FFP related issues or just compliance with not incurring losses?

Can that case be re-opened if it’s a different kind of FFP rule breaks?

City also say the “evidence” has been illegally obtained and that what the “evidence” shows is not the actual reality... this may be true, but can UEFA still open up investigations into it?

Under normal circumstances I imagine the time period can’t be re-opened, having previously been given the green light. Presumably - if UEFA can prove misrepresentation or fraud - it would be a different ball game.

If our owner did make good the sponsorship gap, as UEFA appear to maintain, they would argue that Etihad are actually a related party. That means sponsorship should have been tested under the market fairness rule and doubtless capped at a much lower amount. In such a case our operating losses would have been higher and hence in breach of FFP.

So the crux of the issue remains this: who made up Etihad’s shortfall? Was it the state government, in which case we are hopefully in the clear, or was it Sheikh Mansour/ADUG, in which case things might be tougher? That’s assuming all other things being equal, of course, including time bars and other technicalities.

In effect I think Conn is saying that, if we did get turned over on the above point, then our P & L would be impacted from 2016 onward. That would result in further financial breaches. (It would not fall offside of the 5-year rule.)

As a side issue, if we do win on this point, we’re effectively admitting to the court of football opinion that we are indeed oil state sponsored :-(

 

[Shirley]

Apparently he has tweeted over 640,000 times during his Twitter tenure.

This would suggest..

A) A loner
B) Needs for recognition
C) Has no partner or sex life
D) Lives on his own
E) Narcissistic
F) Has no life
G) Needy
H) All of the above

A prolific wanker

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Respect Souness there !

Not what you expect from all three, but in fairness, Souness has a much more free reign to express his opinion on the Irish Stations than he does in the UK.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Interesting take away too that it would appear on the face of it that UEFA did purely use the context of the stolen/hacked emails as their only evidence for the ban.

As quite a few of us have said before on this thread over last few days, surely it can’t be that simple?

 

[razman]

I believe it was actually designed to stop Chelsea but they and Abramhovic sneaked in the door before the rules went live.. overnight he became an advocate (as he was then part of the clique)

yup , Martin Samuel mentioned this. It was actually keeping chelsea in mind .

 

[Asa's left peg]

I like his answer to the question, what about the fans?'. He said. They've been going through things like this for decades we know they are behind us - or something similar.

 

[kaz7]

I like his answer to the question, what about the fans?'. He said. They've been going through things like this for decades we know they are behind us - or something similar.

We can feel the fans are behind us,dead right

 

[JRockBlues]

sorry..... journalist , and talksport shouldn't be used in the same sentence ….

I posted in the Media Thread that these people shouldn't be referred to as journalists. Call them click-baiters with some of them even being masters of their craft).

 

[The Clansman]

He Couldn't have made it clearer that there are two factions within UEFA and the whole business is political. This has been blindingly obvious for months if not years. I wonder how this will be reported in the mainstream media in the UK. Are they going to call Soriano a liar? It was a great statement. Didn't give our hand away legally but dropped a couple of hand grenades. It does seem clear that UEFA have just ignored our defence. FFS is it really true that UEFA have built their whole case on a few stolen emails (out of context) in a German magazine that has subsequently been shamed (in a different case) for literally making up stories? And those emails were hacked by a man who is in jail and faces trial on 90 charges of hacking, extortion and fraud. Is that all they have got?

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that was all they had. The guy in charge of this from UEFA has previous for ignoring evidence that pointed away from his desired outcome (PSG sponsorship valuations). And if they didn't have anyone on their side who fully understood AD protocol, then HH was always going to be the City owner in their minds in those hacked emails. Media will just twist it as usual (and that has already started) but it does appear that City are very sure of their ground.

 

[Fordyboy46]

Well if Ferran and the top brass prove they have been deceitful it's the end for them, there can be no return. Would put us in a right fucking mess which doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[JRockBlues]

going in the right direction ! something Ferguson did do right !!

The fact that ManCity twitter account relied directly should say something to Harris and his ilk...

"We're watching you!"

 

[mancityvstoke]

I like his answer to the question, what about the fans?'. He said. They've been going through things like this for decades we know they are behind us - or something similar.

Yes my favourite bit that was

Thank you sir !

He knows we are a tough fan base

 

[sir baconface]

As it is, there's something about our smug attitude last summer that makes me worry.
We all applauded Khaldoon's end of season interview, but amidst all his smiling rehearsed answers I don't recall him predicting this outcome.

Why would he? 2014 looked dead and buried at that point.

Would you rather him say: “Hee hee, we put one over on those conniving UEFA bastards?”

 

[IBlue]

Micah is lovely, and a loyal City fan, but he's thick as shit. Sometimes it's quite hard listening to him get confused on the radio when just debating stuff with Chris Sutton and Ian Wright.

Maybe it's just being new to being in the media, but I wouldn't want him talking about FFP ever.

It's a pity Vinny is somewhat employed elsewhere