UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Rammy Blue]

Well if Ferran and the top brass prove they have been deceitful it's the end for them, there can be no return. Would put us in a right fucking mess which doesn't bear thinking about.

Unnecessary negative slant, to what gain?

 

[HelloCity]

Well if Ferran and the top brass prove they have been deceitful it's the end for them, there can be no return. Would put us in a right fucking mess which doesn't bear thinking about.

Just something about your posts that doesn’t sit right with me.

 

[KS55]

Except they have leaked sensitive information throughout this sorry episode so why would City trust them just because they said honestly we wont tell anyone. There would be a leak, Uefa would deny it was them, there would be another and City would walk away, the press would then blame us. I would not trust Uefa to do anything of a confidential nature. Even if it wasn't leaked to the media, Gill, Parry and the rest would know all about it.

If we are saying our accounts are true and fair and relying on that as a defence, we will have to reveal the relevant documents to CAS so Uefa, Gill and all the rest will see them anyway. We cant say our true accounts are our defence and then not tell them what they contain.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Rob Harris , maybe can't understand properly - when he says Ferran can't talk a lot about it. Much needed from club

Harris yet again makes a fool of himself by being partisan on his Twitter feed. Does he think City will really do open interviews before the CAS case? Is he really that ignorant of the way the law works? Has he actually trained as a journalist? It is perfectly usual for big organisations to release sensitive statements on their websites. It happens every day, especially in the business world where sensitivity of financial markets is critical. He appears to be a total moron with no objectivity at all. I can't believe his bosses at AP are happy with his contributions. He is actually damaging his own employer's brand as much as City's.

 

[chesterbells]

going in the right direction ! something Ferguson did do right !!

fucking brilliant

 

[The Blue]

This was a message from the club to the fans. Nothing wrong with that.

Journalists can moan all they want, but the instant cynicism we've got for putting a club interview on our own website shows why a lot of them can't be trusted.

 

[kaz7]

Well if Ferran and the top brass prove they have been deceitful it's the end for them, there can be no return. Would put us in a right fucking mess which doesn't bear thinking about.

Why think about it then,just trust them until they prove they can't be,even if CAS rule against us there is still the swiss courts

 

[Sky Blue]

Well if Ferran and the top brass prove they have been deceitful it's the end for them, there can be no return. Would put us in a right fucking mess which doesn't bear thinking about.

Rob Harris likes this post.

 

[Keeper!]

Impressive interview from the CEO, just a shame it's taken him so long to so long to speak publicly to the fans on any issue.

His and the club attitude from day one prove to me 100% that CAS will throw this insulting and devious ban into history and with it the futures of the people who forced it in the first place.

 

[blueparrot]

Well if Ferran and the top brass prove they have been deceitful it's the end for them, there can be no return. Would put us in a right fucking mess which doesn't bear thinking about.

No return for who ? if we were found guilty then who are you going to blame because the whole club think we are innocent from Sheik Mansour down . I beleive them over UEFA whatever the final outcome. If we lose we 'll deal with it we've been in far worse messes than missing a year or two of C/L .Thats just a mess United, Arsenal , Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool have all dealt with over the past 10 years.

 

[mancity1]

If the Directors are lying to us we would never forgive them.

After seeing that I don’t think they are.

A friend of mine went to a CL corporate match many years ago and got talking to a UEFA official. After a bit the official said I hate your club and what it is doing and walked off.

I thought it weird then. A bit clearer now.

Any club wishing to tackle the cartel head on both on and off the field will be met with this leftist attitude.

UEFA like Holden here in OZ are on borrowed time , in fact Holden is now gone as a brand after 160 odd years in operation and UEFA will follow suit with a much shorter history.

if its not City in part that will bring their demise its the next wave of clubs that will.

Money and principal are forces you cannot keep at bay to avoid your demise if you don't embrace change that is inevitable.

Clubs must rise or fall on the ability of their staff and stakeholders to do what is best for their supporters and themselves by striking the right balance.

UEFA have never had that charter and their time is nigh.

 

[give it to gordon]

Harris yet again makes a fool of himself by being partisan on his Twitter feed. Does he think City will really do open interviews before the CAS case? Is he really that ignorant of the way the law works? Has he actually trained as a journalist? It is perfectly usual for big organisations to release sensitive statements on their websites. It happens every day, especially in the business world where sensitivity of financial markets is critical. He appears to be a total moron with no objectivity at all. I can't believe his bosses at AP are happy with his contributions. He is actually damaging his own employer's brand as much as City's.

How do they hold down paid jobs ?

 

[kaz7]

Just something about your posts that doesn’t sit right with me.

Always thought the same

 

[asahartford1]

Just something about your posts that doesn’t sit right with me.

Is it not that you are a little worried about his thought processes and that he may be on a bumpy road towards catastrophe.

 

[mancityvstoke]

One thing this thread has done is throw a light on some dodgy support

 

[chesterbells]

To spend that much time on social media simply can't be good for anyone, no matter your job or reason for doing so.
Your grasp on the real world must be seriously compromised if you spend so little time engaging with real people.

Absolutely. Those pesky online forums are the worst.

 

[OB1]

I wonder if UEFA, under pressure from certain clubs, have pursued a case that they don’t expect to win at CAS. What they hope is that City win on issues of limitation periods or breach or fair procedure.

If we do then the cheating/ financial doping/ fraud allegations made in the press aren’t defeated and it’s presented as City getting off on a technicality.

The result is damage to City’s reputation without punishment. So we would forever be associated with cheating FFP but only getting off because of our legal team.

Could be. I think that even if CAS rule we are not guilty in substance, the media and many others will still make out we are guilty of financial doping and the like and seek to denigrate our achievements, and UEFA know that.

 

[spiny]

One of the reasons ADUG bought City was the loyalty of our fans.
All our owners, the executive, other staff, Pep and players must be delighted with the unanimous support from fans for City on this issue.
Feran alludes to this.
We will come out stronger.

 

[sir baconface]

Well UEFA have broken the "Pinch" agreement they came to with us in 2014 that was supposed to draw a line under the whole affair, so it would be no surprise to me if we were to go to a Swiss court over that. Especially as UEFA went through our sponsorship arrangements in fine detail between 2012-2014.

They would surely argue the pinch agreement was null and void if subsequently found to be based on fraud or misrepresentation. I would in their place.

Whether they can prove that is entirely a different matter.

 

[KS55]

And this is the narrative that underpins it all isn't it. Same comments made in my local pub last week by two Liverpool fans who had no idea that the four people they were talking to while watching the Forest-Leeds game on TV were a City fan, United fan, and two Blackburn Rovers fans. The exact phrase used was: "City are just in with the Arabs. The dirty cheating bastards" These sort of comments are being made in private and have been made for the last 10 years...not just in pubs but also workplaces I have been in. Racism is a strong element in the way the media have covered our club and its owners. If we had American oil baron owners none of this would have happened and UEFA would not have sanctioned us.

Tebas, of course, supports a political party which wants to ban muslim immigration and expel muslims from Spain.