UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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petrusha said:
I beg to differ. 'Serendipitous' suggests that the outcome is somehow pleasing while 'coincidence' contains no such implication. Therefore, IMO they can legitimately be used together with the former adding to the latter to convey that the coincidence in question is a happy one.
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Ah bugger. You beat me to it. This is what I get for doing some work rather than keeping up with the thread.
 
blueinsa said:
They all know where the bodies are buried and they all know, they all know.

Its naive at best that UEFA and the execs of certain clubs felt they would ever get away with this in my opinion.
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These things tend to start to unravel when too many people are involved. That's when the chances of them fessing up and turning on each other increase. If City have damning stuff on any or some of those we suspect are involved, then the house of cards could fall pretty quickly
 
razman said:


Fair play to simon stone

Also mention why external media didn't take the Ferran interview
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Fair play to Simon Stone?

He’s a snivelling little weasel who treats our club like shit at every opportunity.

Even the start of his tweet shows the contempt he has for us.

“I have done this on a big show of support for the club”. No you rat, you’ve done it because that’s the fair and balanced thing to do.

The fact that stating the obvious is somehow being pro-City shows just how far the agenda has gone.

We’ve been found guilty of nothing by an independent body and UEFA have NOT provided any evidence for their finding against us.

Stating that is not showing support for City, it’s stating the bleeding obvious.

His profile pic says it all about his loyalties.
 
petrusha said:
My employer's now suddenly making me do actual work, the miserable bastards, so no time to go back and see what was said before this.

Cliff's the senior in-house lawyer, and thus an employee, of CFG: https://www.cityfootballgroup.com/our-business/leadership-team/ - he was the one who made the crack, when Dehaene died, about 'one down, six to go'.

Pearce's most infamous statement in all this was: 'We do what we want'.

It's no especially edifying to read and has been seized on by our enemies. They were stupid to commit such stuff to email. Of course, I condemn it.

But given the volume of material that was purportedly available and the sophistication of the software they used to search through it, it's not as bad as it could be. I suspect if almost any club's electronic records were purloined and examined in the same way, you'd find stuff that's just as bad and in a lot of cases there'd be much worse.

I'm assuming here that there isn't more material on us that's being held back and is waiting to be used. I think they'd have released it already if it were available, in an attempt to bury us for good.
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Statements made by Cliff and Pearce are in very bad taste and the club cannot be proud of them. But they are not infringements of FFP and have no relevance whatsoever. Far more relevant, I would have thought, and far more damaging to UEFA, are some of Platini's comments, made in his interview with Martin Samuel years ago, about the way in which FFP was a response to demands from club owners, of the two Milan clubs in particular, to do something because they COULD NOT COMPETE with owners, not named but very clearly Abramovitch and Sheikh Mansour. So, I agree that it is highly doubtful that UEFA have any more damaging material up their sleeve - and would new evidence be admissible if they had?
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Fair play to Simon Stone?

He’s a snivelling little weasel who treats our club like shit at every opportunity.

Even the start of his tweet shows the contempt he has for us.

“I have done this on a big show of support for the club”. No you rat, you’ve done it because that’s the fair and balanced thing to do.

We’ve been found guilty of nothing by an independent body and UEFA have NOT provided any evidence for their finding against us.

Stating that is not showing support for City, it’s stating the bleeding obvious.

His profile pic says it all about his loyalties.
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He gets away with any BBC moderation by saying views are his own yet he gets those views whilst attending press conferences etc on behalf of the BBC
 
BillCarlisle Ex-Manchester said:
I believe that today's announcement heralded the beginning of the end. Added to Pep's guarded remarks last night about Barca I think a lot of arses will be squeaking on Planet UEFA, including Messrs Gill & Parry who have been party to discrimination against a fellow English Club for years. The shit has really hit the fan and it's all UEFA's making. I reckon the time is fast approaching, Fellow Blues, when we'll be able to sit back with smug smiles on our faces.
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Il love it just love if we beat them, famous last words our Kev, this time we will..
 
M18CTID said:
https://www.rt.com/sport/481285-psg-president-fifa-bribery/

Not related to City's case but very interesting nonetheless
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For a breaking story the BBC are putting it almost as far down their web page stories as possible, and you wouldn't know it's a member of UEFA being charged. The biased BBC showing their true colours again. The club should prepare a file, (or is it a dossier?), of their misrepresentations and blatant untruths.
 
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Two interesting personal exchanges on this subject:

1) last night, footy group, fans off many teams and backgrounds. General consensus that City are cheating c**ts, UEFA are also shifty but City are dodgy. One guy actually said "but them Arabs dont stick to any rules, so there you go". Sadly around a third of the group nodded in agreement.

2) 4 work colleagues at lunch, amazingly 3 of whose opening comments were regarding the can of worms that UEFA have opened and cannot control and that City are no worse than many teams.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I'd point out that Omar Berrada said just before Xmas that we still hadn't been asked to appear before the AC & no idea whether we would be asked or not.
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AC hearing was January 22 wasnt it? I think Stefan put that in his second piece. Conn had an exclusive the very same evening.
 
stan bowles said:
Hope you don't mind but I just asked Rabin on Twitter the same questions. Ed Woodward, Edwin Van Der Sar and K-H Rumennigge are all on the ECA Executive Board.
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ECA get to pick 2 members of the UEFA executive council of 16, being a progressive association at least one must be female.

Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Spurs are ordinary members, Leicester, Everton, Villa and Newcastle are associate members. I don't don't the difference between them.

The ECA board members are below. Definitely looks like City need to refine their networking skills.

Annex

ECA Executive Board, 2019-23 ECA Membership Cycle

Chairman: Andrea Agnelli (Juventus)

Vice-Chairman: Pedro López Jiménez (Real Madrid CF)

Vice-Chairman: Edwin van der Sar (AFC Ajax)

Vice-Chairman: Dariusz Mioduski (Legia Warszawa SA)

Vice-Chairman: Aki Riihilahti (HJK Helsinki)

Board Member: Nasser Al-Khelaifi (Paris Saint-Germain FC)

Board Member: Ed Woodward (Manchester United FC)

Board Member: Josep Maria Bartomeu (FC Barcelona)

Board Member: Michael Gerlinger (Bayern München)

Board Member: Raúl Sanllehí (Arsenal FC)

Board Member: Miguel Gil (Club Atlético de Madrid)

Board Member: Peter Moore (Liverpool FC)

Board Member: Hans-Joachim Watzke (Borussia Dortmund)

Board Member: Steven Zhang (FC Internazionale Milano)

Board Member: Jean-Michel Aulas (Olympique Lyonnais)

Board Member: Michael Verschueren (RSC Anderlecht)

Board Member: Miguel Moreira (SL Benfica)

Board Member: Daniel Rommedahl (FC København)

Board Member: Ali Koç (Fenerbahçe SK)

Board Member: Peter Lawwell (Celtic FC)

Board Member: Amra Peternel (GNK Dinamo Zagreb)

Board Member: Stefan Pantović (FK Crvena Zvezda)

Board Member: Wanja Greuel (BSC Young Boys)

Board Member: Kuno Tehva (Nõmme Kalju FC)

Subdivision Representative (Observer): Alexander Medvedev (FC Zenit St. Petersburg)

Subdivision Representative (Observer): Raphael Landthaler (SK Rapid Wien)

Subdivision Representative (Observer): Niclas Carlnén (Malmö FF)

Subdivision Representative (Observer): Vidar Halldorsson (FH Hafnarfjörður)
 
Apropos of nothing in particular I was just thinking of the oft repeated we knew what the rules were when we entered Ed the competition blah blah. How facile a statement is that as though there is an alternative like refusing to take part
 
“While I have cooperated with all authorities during the legal process, the three-year investigation has been characterised by constant leaks, misinformation and a seemingly relentless agenda to smear my reputation in the media – completely irrespective of the facts and the notion of due process.

“For that reason, I have requested the relevant Swiss authorities to open a criminal enquiry into the conduct of the investigation.

“I also reserve the right to take action against certain media who for three years have repeatedly published factually-unsupported and highly damaging articles, often based on illegally-sourced and – quite remarkably in some cases – faked and fabricated materials, to satisfy their narrative of my supposed guilt
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Quite an interesting response from Nasser there.
 
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