UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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I agree dreams rarely come true, but houses made of card (and bullshit) tend to collapse.
People go to expensive legal measures when they are knowingly in the wrong.
I remember a few years ago Mr Abromawich of Chelsea fame and his late Oligarch partner both choosing to legally fight in London.
The judge made Mr A the victor mainly because he told fewer lies.
 
Sad occasion in Madrid but I suppose progress of sorts regarding the CV situation particularly in the capital.
The use of the ice rink there as mortuary discontinued and military salute the dead with singing.



Sorry wrong thread please transfer.
 
Sad occasion in Madrid but I suppose progress of sorts regarding the CV situation particularly in the capital.
The use of the ice rink there as mortuary discontinued and military salute the dead with singing.



Sorry wrong thread please transfer.

Not all of us read all the other threads , nothing wrong in a reminder .
 
We all know that 2 of the hateful 8 which KS55 speaks of are the two teams that play in red at either end of the East Lancs Road. Then throw in Bayern, Real and Barca. For now I can't think of who the other 3 are.

Revenge comes more sweetly to those who wait. Let's all remain calm and leave it all to CAS, to give their own judgement. I know all this waiting is getting painful and we all want to see it all come to end. Then once the case is over and should we win. Then the time will come to go after all those clubs and UEFA and sue for damages to the good name of the club.

The club I would most like to go after is at the far end of the East Lancs road. Firstly for hacking into our clubs data base, then for the damages to the clubs name. After that we should go after all the other clubs one after the other. A broad park figure from each club let's say £50 million. This would have to be in one payment straight up. If they wish to pay in instalments the interest rate would be 25% per annum. I want this high so that they will be encouraged to pay it all in one payment and not in instalments.
Oh goody. You're back to your 'sue everyone for £50m' bollox.
We've not seen that for a while
 
We all know that 2 of the hateful 8 which KS55 speaks of are the two teams that play in red at either end of the East Lancs Road. Then throw in Bayern, Real and Barca. For now I can't think of who the other 3 are.

Revenge comes more sweetly to those who wait. Let's all remain calm and leave it all to CAS, to give their own judgement. I know all this waiting is getting painful and we all want to see it all come to end. Then once the case is over and should we win. Then the time will come to go after all those clubs and UEFA and sue for damages to the good name of the club.

The club I would most like to go after is at the far end of the East Lancs road. Firstly for hacking into our clubs data base, then for the damages to the clubs name. After that we should go after all the other clubs one after the other. A broad park figure from each club let's say £50 million. This would have to be in one payment straight up. If they wish to pay in instalments the interest rate would be 25% per annum. I want this high so that they will be encouraged to pay it all in one payment and not in instalments.


I believe the " hateful 8 " is a reference to the teams from the PL who " allegedly " wrote to UEFA recently and do not include the European teams that you mention. Just in case you are interested,
 
The PSG and Juventus reps are there having been elected by the European Clubs Association, and have no voting rights. UEFA hasn't appointed them.

The Juventus deal I'm referring to is their sponsorship agreement with Fiat and its subsidiaries. This deal was doubled in value to enable Juventus to afford Ronaldo. Fiat are owned by the Agnelli family... but UEFA have passed over this in silence and have not raised the question of fair market value or where the money comes from .... As for our friend from PSG, it seems irrelevant whom he actually represents on what. UEFA seemed to have bungled their investigation into PSG's very serious breaches of FFP regulations and then, very shortly after sign TV contracts with Bein! No questions asked, it's all above board ... and then this squeaky clean, admirable, blemish free saint appears on the executive council of UEFA. Yet more evidence of the patent integrity of UEFA! And he represents the ECA. Who exactly do the ECA represent? One hesitates to say two convicted Bavarian criminals, but one can say a group of football clubs determined to look after nothing other than their own interests - and with a long, consistent history of rigid opposition to the Sheikh's investment in City and City's self-sustaining development. I wonder what answer our lawyers will get if they ask what FFP is doing to protect City's financial stability? And even more so if they ask what Sheikh Mansour has ever done to jeopordise it?
 
.........and then there's Sayed, Harris, McGeehan, Delooney, Conn etc etc. Just loads of peeps consumed by their own pettiness. I want us to win at CAS, not only for its own sake, but to see the vats of boiling piss, the squirming, the excuses, the denial, the sheer hypocrisy of these pigmies. Oh, what fun........ blues throwing their hats in the air, Soriano turning cartwheels, Txixi signing Mbappe, Khaldoon sipping pretend champagne......let joy be unconfined.
 
Let us all hope we are right but, as fans, we should also prepare for the worst (as I'd expect the club to) which, in the scheme of things, really isn't the disaster our enemies like to hope.

It is obviously prudent to prepare for the worst while hoping for and expecting the best, and those who own and run our club have plans for the best, worst, average scenarios in the shortest, short, medium, long and longer term so that just about every eventuality is dealt with. That's why the last decade has been so fabulously successful and we must not forget just how successful it has been. Now, I trust that the club is in hands far too wise and experienced not to have made sure the settlement of 2014 was water tight and our accounts seem hard to argue with - before we argue with Etihad's! But I do agree that things can go wrong in court, even to the lengths of positively perverse rulings.

So what I'm not trying to do is say that our case is so overwhelmingly strong that inevitably we will prevail - although I do believe that - but rather that I cannot understand the victim mentality that many of our fans have. "They'll do us for something." "UEFA will do whatever the cartel want." "We'll get two year ban because the cartel don't want us at the top table." They see City as the supine punchbag that cannot resist the powerful UEFA and its cartel paymaster. The evidence of the last ten years is the exact opposite. City have had the glittering decade. UEFA and the cartel have had to have recourse to ludicrous regulations and these failed miserably to halt our inexorable ascent. Stopping investment, limiting our transfer spending and restricting our squad has all been ineffective. So now they have to have a second go, this time by trying to do us but without telling anyone what for! Looking from the outside it is UEFA that must be dreading legal proceedings, not us. Even the verdict of UEFA's tame lap dogs didn't interrupt City's stride.
 
.........and then there's Sayed, Harris, McGeehan, Delooney, Conn etc etc. Just loads of peeps consumed by their own pettiness. I want us to win at CAS, not only for its own sake, but to see the vats of boiling piss, the squirming, the excuses, the denial, the sheer hypocrisy of these pigmies. Oh, what fun........ blues throwing their hats in the air, Soriano turning cartwheels, Txixi signing Mbappe, Khaldoon sipping pretend champagne......let joy be unconfined.

Even if we win and cleared of all so called charges this lot will still profess to know better
 
What are thoughts on UEFA handing our CL spot to the red pricks from Stretford even if our case hasn’t been heard by CAS?
 
What are thoughts on UEFA handing our CL spot to the red pricks from Stretford even if our case hasn’t been heard by CAS?
I'm sure somebody amongst the preceding 2725 pages has made some mention of it. I don't think you'll find anyone who thinks it's a wonderful idea though.
 
What are thoughts on UEFA handing our CL spot to the red pricks from Stretford even if our case hasn’t been heard by CAS?
The little i have read seems to be UEFA have allowed leagues to chose who they put in the CL, thus washing their hands of any backlash, so the FA could ask the Hateful Eight Sheffield United and City to vote, on who goes in where, these clubs being the only ones with a vested interest, that though would be very costly to UEFA and the FA for changing the criteria after the qualification period
 
Until the CAS hearing has been resolved one way or another, surely we'll be allowed to compete in the CL whenever it returns.
 
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