UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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The landscape has changed. We know we're facing what could be an existential threat now.
I'm no lawyer but would it not be prudent to use just enough ammo to win what we decide is our objective?

Maybe that is not possible and all must be fired as a defence plea.

I am certain that in time our attitude must change if anything threatens the earning power for the three equity owning partners.
Have we reached that decision do you think?
 
Sure.

But it seems clear enough we do have a case to answer. The emails were damaging, if at best just stupid levels of bravado. It did raise suspicions though, because for most of the empty heads in Europe we were a club with no history that suddenly came from no previous domestic or European standing and dared to challenge the elite and take their lunch money away. We also dared to do it with owners that have no history in European football because they weren’t white or latterly American.

We also don’t know what our dossier of indisputable evidence was, but for one judge, and not some absolute no mark, it wasn’t enough.

Maybe that guy was pressured into a decision? Maybe it all boils down to a grey area of the regulations and he opted one side and not the other? No one on here would know for sure. I doubt anyone at City really knows either, for absolute certainty, because it looks like it is coming down to how the set of rules we signed up to should be interpreted... and a bunch of top legal people are going to submit substantial dossiers arguing one way and the other and this time three judges will decide rather than one.

So all I’m saying, in contrast to some other voices, is that there are clearly reasons not to feel completely confident about all this, even if that’s not entirely popular or what I want to happen, because we have gone through two processes thus far and at neither juncture got the result we wanted.

We can’t really afford to lose, because it seems from reasonably well briefed media that could open a very serious can of worms related to our accounting practices and even potentially impact on previous domestic honours. That, if the worst does happen, doesn’t seem overly far fetched.

Fingers and toes crossed we win.... because I’d like to go back to a point where I can just watch my team play and whinge away solely because of some terrible player performance or refereeing decision and not need to read up on Thai politics, human rights, European financial laws etc. to defend and understand better where the team I support are at in the landscape of football and the face of continued hostility.
I think you need to look at the UEFA process with respect to FFP as you clearly are a little confused as to how it works You also need to catch up on the statements that City made along the way as to their dissatisfaction especially in context of the chief investigator You should also consider the time line and how the IC rushes their verdict to stay inside the 5 year time limit for reinvestigation of a previously agreed case
I collated lots of information and links here

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/ffp-timeline-for-information.344822/
 
Better minds than me on here. My only legal knowledge comes from the English Civil Courts and that’s only from the administrative side.
Now I have seen often, very often to be honest, cases that were totally in a state of logjam suddenly settling ‘on the steps’ so to speak. Now my question is could this happen In our case? A carefully worded statement from both parties? I actually asked a Judge, an Evertonian, this question and he didn’t know, to be fair he does specialise in insolvency law, might ask him about yoonited next week!
 
Better minds than me on here. My only legal knowledge comes from the English Civil Courts and that’s only from the administrative side.
Now I have seen often, very often to be honest, cases that were totally in a state of logjam suddenly settling ‘on the steps’ so to speak. Now my question is could this happen In our case? A carefully worded statement from both parties? I actually asked a Judge, an Evertonian, this question and he didn’t know, to be fair he does specialise in insolvency law, might ask him about yoonited next week!

And how the process could be speeded up for our neighbours .
 
Better minds than me on here. My only legal knowledge comes from the English Civil Courts and that’s only from the administrative side.
Now I have seen often, very often to be honest, cases that were totally in a state of logjam suddenly settling ‘on the steps’ so to speak. Now my question is could this happen In our case? A carefully worded statement from both parties? I actually asked a Judge, an Evertonian, this question and he didn’t know, to be fair he does specialise in insolvency law, might ask him about yoonited next week!
That's if there still in business next week
 
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