UEFA FFP investigation - CAS hearing set for 8/9/10th June (poll added)

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What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

This poll will close on 10 Jun 2020 at 10:27 PM.
  1. Two-year ban upheld

    75 vote(s)
    10.1%
  2. Ban reduced to one year

    241 vote(s)
    32.4%
  3. Ban overturned and City exonerated

    371 vote(s)
    49.9%
  4. Other

    57 vote(s)
    7.7%
  1. pavelsrnicek

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    There were 2 separate chambers of the UEFA CFCB who ruled on City. The first was the one that leaked like a sieve and as such we went to CAS. CAS rejected our appeal not on the merits of the case but because the CFCB process hadn’t been full.
     
  2. chedinho

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    I think the evidence is most likely to be the full transcript of emails.
    That would be a goldmine of information to our competitors at best or further the witch hunt against us at worst.

    I can’t see how we can lose at an independent tribunal.
     
  3. GBrannan

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    The process absolutely seems questionable. I’m sure we’ll question it thoroughly. That’s what CAS seemingly look at, the process of what transpired against the rules that each party signed up to. Leterme is also not without his faults, but he ultimately didn’t sign off on this, even if he was the public narrator.

    I’m aware that CAS will now give us three judges as opposed to one. However it seemed overlooked to many that a proper, high standing judge had reviewed our case and decided we we worthy of a two year exemption from the Champions League (plus associated revenue costs) and a €30m fine. Somewhat unprecedented measures. It wasn’t Gill and Parry et al that eventually found us at fault, it was a high standing European judge.

    I reiterate, I hope we can deliver a conclusive argument that clears us of all charges and leaves no doubt about our innocence. I’d personally take an exoneration with loads of hanging questions marks right now just to move on! However I think the mere fact we’re in this predicament suggests we’re not as on top things as we think/ hope and there are weaknesses in our position that we need to get leading legal people to fight.

    Time will eventually tell what these eventualities look like, but we inevitably have some sticky areas that we need to explain. The fact we decided to talk about aspects of these areas in email correspondence seems pretty poor judgment by those involved, given their professional standing.

    I’m sure in all our walks of life we occasionally make poor decisions, but in a very public facing business these could be subject to serious exploitation. We’ve been exploited via hacking to defend a case other parties wanted answering almost since our takeover and were openly pressuring UEFA about investigating. We paid our high ranking people significant sums of remuneration to hopefully avoid such eventualities. Alas, it didn’t workout because we made internal errors of judgement that were leaked, reported and then collated to make us, at this stage, in breach of regulations, even if those regulations are not seemingly very fair from an objective viewpoint.

    I think it is though fair to say UEFA will be told some of their processes are poor etc. but will that be enough for them to lose the case?

    Time will tell and it depends what we can prove/ have up our sleeve.
     

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  4. GBrannan

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    Yep. But the second chamber had at least some legal element that shouldn’t be completely discounted. The first phase did, without seeing the process, come across like an absolute farce.

    Hopefully when three other judges review this case they’ll think our position and interpretation of evidence, in relation to the processes we signed up to, is top notch and it’ll be enough to discount the original decision.
     
  5. Impeccable One

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    Anywhere I can lay a bet that the ban is quashed and we are exonerated by CAS ?
     
  6. cheekybids

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    Corruption reaches the highest levels & across every industry, that includes judges & lawyers.
     
  7. better dead than red

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    [​IMG]

    Caught them on hidden camera
     
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  8. karen7

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    That is me and dom !
     
  9. better dead than red

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    Not certain, why you addressed me with this though. I merely said there is more than one "never wrong" at BM.

    I've no issue trying to argue a point here. Goodness knows I've done it. However, I don't see how disrespecting the person you are trying to bring to your point of view helps your cause. I suppose I was raised well...
     
  10. better dead than red

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    You in blue Karen? I'd have thought you'd have chosen a sky blue over navy blue. :-)
     
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