UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
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Sorry for my ignorance, and it may already have been mentioned in this 850+ thread (There is no way I'm trawling back through all this), but if Der Spiegel gave any money or incentive for Pinto to give them this data, surely this would be at a minimum, handling stolen goods. They are basically supporting illegal activity.

If Pinto gave it over free of charge, under the guise of whistle blower, I suppose this would negate my above comment mind.
I think they claim not and that he only gave them only some of the info, this is from what Football Leaks claims to be around 70 million documents and more than 3.4 terabytes of information which is a hell of a lot of hacking.

In fact I found this (again):

He wanted the stories hidden in the material to be told – entire stories and not just fragments. So he handed his data over to Spiegel: eight portable hard drives containing 18.6 million documents, including original contracts complete with secret subsidiary agreements, emails, Word files, Excel charts and photos. The data reaches into 2016 and takes up a total of 1.9 terabytes of memory. That is roughly the equivalent of 500,000 Bibles.

https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks-the-story-behind-the-data/
 
It was Pinto's lawyer who claimed Pinto "should not be in jail." His most famous previous client was Julian Assange. That didn't go so well.
What is interesting is that the football leaks cache has been described as one of the world's biggest ever data hacks but only a small fraction has been published by Der Spiegel. I wonder what is in the rest of the data? This saga would make a great movie.

I’m sure there’s plenty of dirt in those emails. Hopefully some of it will see the light of day. We all know the old elite have plenty to hide.
 
I’m sure there’s plenty of dirt in those emails. Hopefully some of it will see the light of day. We all know the old elite have plenty to hide.
I wonder if City are mentioned anywhere within the 147 charges. Presumably the charges will be published somewhere at some point. Given the extension granted to Pinto's custody period and the millions of documents involved you can only assume that this is the tip of a very large iceberg. The UK media have already started to make Pinto out as some sort of saint despite him being caught with 300,000 Euros which had been hacked from a Cayman Islands bank account. Whistleblower my arse!
 
I think they claim not and that he only gave them only some of the info, this is from what Football Leaks claims to be around 70 million documents and more than 3.4 terabytes of information which is a hell of a lot of hacking.

In fact I found this (again):



https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks-the-story-behind-the-data/
Not seen this story before. It suggests strongly that Pinto has used a false identity to demand money from Doyen Sports. If this is part of the evidence the police have got Pinto is going to jail for a long time.
 
I wonder if City are mentioned anywhere within the 147 charges. Presumably the charges will be published somewhere at some point. Given the extension granted to Pinto's custody period and the millions of documents involved you can only assume that this is the tip of a very large iceberg. The UK media have already started to make Pinto out as some sort of saint despite him being caught with 300,000 Euros which had been hacked from a Cayman Islands bank account. Whistleblower my arse!

I suspect Pinto’s trial will be an uncomfortable prospect for many people. I doubt this will be a simple prosecution and there may well be some awkward revelations for a range of people. I hope we will see some more objective scrutiny of the data.
 
You wonder if he tried similar with PSG and ourselves...?
I do wonder. Perhaps that's why City have always been so confident that the UEFA action would go nowhere. Unless Pinto is cleared, and that seems very unlikely, UEFA can't possibly act against City without also taking action against any other clubs mentioned in the 70 million documents. That's assuming the flawed process even gets off the ground.
When you look on Google this story is huge news across the world but the UK media are strangely silent. It just doesn't suit the anti-City narrative does it? Just weeks ago the British media were running ridiculous stories that UEFA were set to sanction City. They must be total morons.
 
I do wonder. Perhaps that's why City have always been so confident that the UEFA action would go nowhere. Unless Pinto is cleared, and that seems very unlikely, UEFA can't possibly act against City without also taking action against any other clubs mentioned in the 70 million documents. That's assuming the flawed process even gets off the ground.
When you look on Google this story is huge news across the world but the UK media are strangely silent. It just doesn't suit the anti-City narrative does it? Just weeks ago the British media were running ridiculous stories that UEFA were set to sanction City. They must be total morons.


Nailed it at the end there.
 
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