Zenmanc
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Because it's a devastating ban with wide reaching ramifications. Of course you fight it.Why are we fighting it ?
Because it's a devastating ban with wide reaching ramifications. Of course you fight it.Why are we fighting it ?
It's not simple but it is interesting. FFP founder Platini is arrested in Qatar World Cup investigation involving Sarkozy and PSG; City's owners believe Pinto hacking may be linked to Qatari agents (suggests Ziegler in the Times yesterday); Qatari PSG boss joins UEFA's top team and PSG are let off the hook; then after a series of leaks City are thrown out of Europe after an investigation led by Yves Leterme (the man who brokered the PSG deal) I am as sceptical as anyone about conspiracy theories but what can't be disputed is that Abu Dhabi and Qatar are on different sides in a very bloody war in the Middle East at present and there's a lot of dirty tricks going on. I am not saying all these episodes are linked but it does show you the sort of climate CFG is operating in.While it obviously isn't that simple for a bunch of reasons, the fact is that litigation is messy and the inherent uncertainly of a trial, even when you mostly have the facts on your side, makes the whole thing an extremely risky proposition. I'm sure we will have the best counsel that money can buy, but there is a very good reason that some 90% of lawsuits end up in a pre-trial settlement, when you go before a judge you just never fucking know. In my opinion we've fucked up royally by allowing it to get anywhere close to this far.
Easy mistake to make when we have the BBC peddling that particular untruth!
You're right, we've done absolutely nothing that could be even questioned. No multi billion dollar competition driven company ever does anything on the edge of the rules.Tell me which rules we've broken, what the evidence specifically is against us and why the penalty should be reduced.
What's wrong with what I said? Even if we haven't broken any actual rules (which I would probably bet on), we were pretty clearly looking to exploit any possible loophole or grey area. And the whole Etihad cashflow situation obviously wasn't contemplated as being okay when they drew them up. That's why I said spirit of the rules.
As Mark Stephens, a top UK lawyer, has said today: "Interestingly there is no precedent for UEFA second guessing what is the correct amount for commercial sponsorship deals."
Can anyone enlighten me on the mechanism that UEFA uses to assess "market value"? Is it a scientific formula? Equally, isn't the value of a sponsorship what it's worth to the sponsor rather than the sponsored?
nah don't get it you say we are guilty our owners are very successful people and wont pick a fight they didn't think they could win.Because it's a devastating ban with wide reaching ramifications. Of course you fight it.
Must be a weird life to assume everything you support is lily white and unquestionable. You don't get such consequences for doing absolutely nothing.So you work for UEFA and are part of their investigating team?
Remind me to never get arrested with youYou're right, we've done absolutely nothing that could be even questioned. No multi billion dollar competition driven company ever does anything on the edge of the rules.
The post I was responding to said we hadn't mislead UEFA in any way. Which...like, come on man. I'm as upset as all of you that we got this punishment, which is unfair in my eyes. But we're not 100% innocent here either.