UK far right trouble

[KDB Fan]

He was arrested for unlawful assembly not encouraging peopleto burn down buildings.If he was he would be in a prison facing execution for terrorism charges.

You are insane if you actually believe this shit.

We've had this debate before and the claim that the only people locked up after Southport were either violent or inciting violence is false. There is no point in having it again because everyone knows that wasn't the case, and there's been several cases on here posted from reputable sources that show it was a wider political crackdown.

The police, CPS, and Government would have had the public's support if they would have just targeted those who were violent or incited violence, and they would have had some moral authority to complain to China about their own political crackdown and assault on freedom of expression. Unfortunately, they didn't. It was a PR disaster for the UK justice system and Keir Starmer's personal ratings have suffered the biggest collapse on record and continue to fall because the public know the truth.

He has no moral authority to lecture China on anything.

 

[stonerblue]

I've not seen the footage so can't comment but if it's to endanger life then yeah absolutely they should be arrested.

I notice you didn't answer my last question though, I've not seen much of the farmers' protests but I'm assuming they're not blocking the M25 then?

Don't think tractors are allowed on the M25. They would have had to drive on some big roads to get there though and as we all know, being stuck behind a tractor can cause massive tailbacks for ambulances to get stuck in.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

We've had this debate before and the claim that the only people locked up after Southport were either violent or inciting violence is false. There is no point in having it again because everyone knows that wasn't the case, and there's been several cases on here posted from reputable sources that show it was a wider political crackdown.

The police, CPS, and Government would have had the public's support if they would have just targeted those who were violent or incited violence, and they would have had some moral authority to complain to China about their own political crackdown and assault on freedom of expression. Unfortunately, they didn't. It was a PR disaster for the UK justice system and Keir Starmer's personal ratings have suffered the biggest collapse on record and continue to fall because the public know the truth.

He has no moral authority to lecture China on anything.

If you shout fire in a packed building and you know what you are shouting is false it's a public disorder offence..

Maybe don't incite hate and violence by falsely claiming an asylum seeker murdered young children. If you don't know, don't say anything.

I saw the name on twitter, but it was so stereotypical that I guessed it wasn't based on factual information. I didn't even repost it in here when a known racist and hater of Asian people and Muslims was frothing at the mouth and making references to it.

Correlation and causation aren't the same. Ratings are falling due to the budget and the poor state of the economy. People have moved on from mindless thugs rioting and posting hate online. So should you.

 

[BridgyDids]

This is the issue. You're seeing everything through the prism of party politics and why you're not too bothered about losing some basic freedoms.

Good to see Labour and Manchester MP Graham Stringer understand some things are more important than Labour Vs Tory and condemn the Stasi-like policing that's going on in this country at the moment:

But, I haven’t lost any basic freedoms, and neither have you. I’ve never been able to instigate disorder through false statements, without consequences.

 

[KDB Fan]

Correlation and causation aren't the same. Ratings are falling due to the budget and the poor state of the economy. People have moved on from mindless thugs rioting and posting hate online. So should you.

The graph is from before the budget. His ratings collapsed after the Southport murders and subsequent crackdown, which happened on the 29th July.

Not many have moved on judging by his ratings which are still in the gutter, not helped by the budget. The fact he was questioned by Robert Peston for going 'full on Stalin' today, claims on LBC saying Britain has gone back 400 years, and the fact so much attention is on freedom of expression in our country shows it's still a massive issue that could be terminal for his hopes of getting reelected. Rightly so unless he can rebut the claims about 'two tier justice' and 'Stasi-like policing'.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

The graph is from before the budget. His ratings collapsed after the Southport murders and subsequent crackdown, which happened on the 29th July.

Not many have moved on judging by his ratings which are still in the gutter, not helped by the budget. The fact he was questioned by Robert Peston for going 'full on Stalin' today, claims on LBC saying Britain has gone back 400 years, and the fact so much attention is on freedom of expression in our country shows it's still a massive issue that could be terminal for his hopes of getting reelected. Rightly so unless he can rebut the claims about 'two tier justice' and 'Stasi-like policing'.

You take Robert Peston seriously?

I take him more seriously as a musician.

 

[KDB Fan]

But, I haven’t lost any basic freedoms, and neither have you. I’ve never been able to instigate disorder through false statements, without consequences.

When was the last time you remember someone being arrested for reposting inaccurate news? With the added bonus of spending 36 hours in custody, much longer than most murderers and rapists get in police custody.

https://www.cheshire.police.uk/news/cheshire/news/articles/2024/8/woman-arrested-in-connection-with-inaccurate-social-media-post/

 

[BobKowalski]

When was the last time you remember someone being arrested for reposting inaccurate news? With the added bonus of spending 36 hours in custody, much longer than most murderers and rapists get in police custody.

https://www.cheshire.police.uk/news/cheshire/news/articles/2024/8/woman-arrested-in-connection-with-inaccurate-social-media-post/

The woman was released without charge.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

When was the last time you remember someone being arrested for reposting inaccurate news? With the added bonus of spending 36 hours in custody, much longer than most murderers and rapists get in police custody.

https://www.cheshire.police.uk/news/cheshire/news/articles/2024/8/woman-arrested-in-connection-with-inaccurate-social-media-post/

If I went around telling people in your local area that you were a paedophile do you think it would be right that I faced no consequences when it turned out to be not true but only after you had been beaten to pulp?

I would have known that people believing it would be likely to attack you.

Many people who spread that name didn't care If it was true and didn't care for the consequences.

 

[BobKowalski]

The fact he was questioned by Robert Peston for going 'full on Stalin' today, claims on LBC saying Britain has gone back 400 years..

Stalin would have had Peston shot, so probably not ‘full on Stalin’.