I am struggling to understand why posters on here are feeling sorry for Turtle. He arrived in an arrogant fanfare as the new messiah. If he had turned it round he would now be lauding it like a Ram over a flock of sheep. OK the press now hounding him would be singing his praises but that is what they are paid to do, they need to sell papers. The hacks didn't go on about a Philoshofee, Turtle did, the hacks didn't spunk 300 mill on kids, has beens and shite, he did.
If the Rags were not 5th and about to sack Turtle the fans would be on this board, in the pub on the phone and anywhere else they could shout there putrid gobs off, all the while laughing at lickle Citeh. I don't feel sorry for the Turtle no more than I feel sorry for the rest of that arrogant shithole club.
Oh and Happy Christmas