United thread 2017/18

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Matic hey a world beater player of the year already!

Give him till turn of the year he will be fcuked even Swansea made him look average at best.
 
Unfortunately, they will be there or there abouts IMO. They have a good squad and will bully many teams, scoring goals through set pieces and direct play. They will shut up shop against the best teams, and will do the same if they are leading the league. They have significant influence on the media and referees and that will earn them points and keep the pressure off: the press seem to be willing them to do well and it has influence. It is not a style of play to be enjoyed but it is effective in the Premier League; they will just be better at the direct style than most of the other clubs who play in the same way.

We play the more exciting brand of football and have a technically superior, deeper squad. Pep is a romantic though and I love him for it. He believes in the way football should be played and will not change, even in the last two minutes of a game. This can potentially cost points and it is not an area that United will lose points in, at least not for the want of trying. I watched their game yesterday and they looked fairly poor for the vast majority of the game but won comfortably. I think that's the way it will be unfortunately.

I have never wanted a team to lose as much as I want them to lose but they are going to be close rivals this season. To beat them to the title, we cannot afford to drop silly points. We need to win by playing great football and win when we don't. It's the latter we need to learn and learn it quickly.
 
I thought some of United's passing yesterday was horrific especially down the right. They could have been caught on the half way line plenty of times. Better sides will open them up, its easy to make hay in August but once the champions league kicks in the eye gouger will either have to play his first 11 Weekend and midweek or be forced to use the squad which is no way as deep as ours.
 
Dax777 said:
Has little to do with Matic. Pogba was very good last season (the negative comments here notwithstanding) and he seems to be rounding into superstar form this season. Matic will help when they play other top teams, but right now he is just another big body. Not much different to bigbrush.

Pogba is special. Lukaku is on a confidence high, at some point that will break. Martial is my real worry. If he keeps playing at that level, then they will eventually have a 4 headed attacking monster with Rashford and Martial on the wings with Lukaku up top and Pogba just behind next to Mkt or Mata. That is a very strong front 5 or 6 when confident.

I still think their weakness is defense. RB is older and noticeable slower. LB is good on the ball but a poor defender. And Jones is error prone. SO they have 1 true defender and a great keeper. But unfortunately, they don't play open football against other top clubs. You can expect both Matic and Bigbrush starting in the middle with Pogba agains t other top teams.

It is a winning formula. Attack the small teams with your speed strength and t talent and then bully the top teams with your size and compactness. If they play it right, they'll be in the running come May.

We just need that confidence to break soon and Lukaku to return to been a poor first touch striker.
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Their players are more than good enough to win the League but hopefully their manager will be their weak point.
 
Tevez City said:
Their players are more than good enough to win the League but hopefully their manager will be their weak point.
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The only thing that concerns me is how much tinkering Pep does. I think United will do less and will be more cohesive for it.
 
oldius said:
Unfortunately, they will be there or there abouts IMO. They have a good squad and will bully many teams, scoring goals through set pieces and direct play. They will shut up shop against the best teams, and will do the same if they are leading the league. They have significant influence on the media and referees and that will earn them points and keep the pressure off: the press seem to be willing them to do well and it has influence. It is not a style of play to be enjoyed but it is effective in the Premier League; they will just be better at the direct style than most of the other clubs who play in the same way.

We play the more exciting brand of football and have a technically superior, deeper squad. Pep is a romantic though and I love him for it. He believes in the way football should be played and will not change, even in the last two minutes of a game. This can potentially cost points and it is not an area that United will lose points in, at least not for the want of trying. I watched their game yesterday and they looked fairly poor for the vast majority of the game but won comfortably. I think that's the way it will be unfortunately.

I have never wanted a team to lose as much as I want them to lose but they are going to be close rivals this season. To beat them to the title, we cannot afford to drop silly points. We need to win by playing great football and win when we don't. It's the latter we need to learn and learn it quickly.
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Good post. They are an efficient machine now and have added the necessary players to drag them through games. With the refs, media and PL on their side it'll be tough to finish above them.

However, I'm confident we've got the best team in the Prem and with a smidge of luck we'll win it.
 
Otamendi's Beard said:
Good post. They are an efficient machine now and have added the necessary players to drag them through games. With the refs, media and PL on their side it'll be tough to finish above them.

However, I'm confident we've got the best team in the Prem and with a smidge of luck we'll win it.
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Unfortunately we had the best team last year and came no where near winning it. I just hope we can keep the consistency where we need to be to mount a serious challenge and not be stuffed over by the horrific reffing we had last season.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Unfortunately we had the best team last year and came no where near winning it. I just hope we can keep the consistency where we need to be to mount a serious challenge and not be stuffed over by the horrific reffing we had last season.
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We may well have done. But we were in serious transition last season and suffered a lot of injuries to key players, such as Kompany, Gundogan, etc. We also had more major weaknesses than we do this season.

I feel that the squad is in a much better place and the addition of excellent full backs & a GK that looks like he can make a save should serve us well.
 
Unfortunately wins breed confidence which in turn brings the best out of a team
 
It's comfortable so far for them. A randomly favourable start to help build confidence.

Enjoying the giddiness of the fans and media. Give it a while. When it's 3 games a week, against better opposition, the mix of fatigue due to lack of rotation, injuries and joses batshit craziness, we should hopefully see the real United come out.

Late goals certainly making things look better than they really are for them.

They look better. But not to the levels we are being led to believe.
 
Jesus, when they beat Leicester comfortably in their next match I fear bluemoon will implode.
 
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