United Thread - 2021/22

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Akira said:
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Kieran McKenna and Michael Carrick are not respected by the Manchester United players​


The Manchester United team do not have complete confidence in their coaching staff, according to a new report.
Manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer delegates training responsibilities almost entirely to his coaching staff, consisting principally of Michael Carrick and Kieran McKenna, among others.

And the credentials and experience of these two coaches, as discussed in an article here recently, is sometimes questioned by the players, according to The Athletic.
‘Sources close to several senior players have said they feel training could be led by coaches with greater elite experience,’ the report claims.

‘McKenna’s previous experience had been coaching under-18s teams at Tottenham and then United, before Mourinho promoted him to his first-team staff.
‘The Athletic has been told his approach can, at times, be schoolmasterly. There may or may not be substance to that but these are also familiar complaints from players when results begin to turn.

‘A well-placed associate said McKenna has the potential to go on to manage a top-six Premier League club, such is his level of diligence and research when preparing. Others, though, question whether he possesses the requisite charisma.
‘Very occasionally, Solskjaer or Phelan will aggressively let rip in the dressing room, such as after the 3-2 second-leg defeat by Roma in April’s Europa League semi-final (United had won the first leg 6-2 at home) or half-time recently against Villarreal, but that is not McKenna’s personality.
‘More than one well-placed source insisted McKenna commands respect from players through the manner of his set-up but conceded that when he asks them to push past a comfort zone they might subconsciously question his pedigree.’

There is a feeling from The Athletic’s exposé that whilst the players perhaps doubt both Carrick and McKenna’s credentials, Carrick has a more amenable personality, meaning that he is more accepted than the former Tottenham academy man.
Many recent critiques of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as manager of United have referenced the coaching team he has at his disposal and whether that is the weakest aspect of his management.
Former player and coach Nicky Butt is cited as saying that Solskjaer does not micro-manage and delegates a lot.

However, ‘some sources The Athletic has spoken to feel the collegiate approach means the 48-year-old former striker is not decisive enough at some key moments.’
In other words, Solskjaer’s hands-off approach to coaching will only work if the people he has trusted to do the job deliver. Whether Carrick and McKenna are doing that is increasingly being questioned, even, it would seem, by the Manchester United players.




Hilarious stuff.
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Beautiful reading
 
jrb said:
Just like Liverpool fans.

Self-proclaimed European Royalty. WTF?!

Only another 7 CL Cup wins until Liverpool equal Real Madrid's 13 European cups.

But the Scousers never acknowledge that fact.
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The scouser logic is that European Royalty means 5 CL wins. That disqualifies United.
 
vmsuhail said:
The scouser logic is that European Royalty means 5 CL wins. That disqualifies United.
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I had 2 Liverpool fans on today’s wine tour
They live in Queensland
He was from Reigate in Surrey, she from Iceland !
Within 2 minutes of setting off, they were straight into me, 6 euro cups, 20 league titles blah fuckin blah oil money…
“You’ll always have the title of the most killings at a game to be proud of as well”
Not a peep out of the cunts for the next 5 hours.
 
If Manchester City are an oil club because of the business interests of the owner Sheikh Mansour, then Man Utd are an oil-club because of the business history of Malcolm Glazer. In the 1980s Malcolm Glazer was invested in and later obtained a controlling interest in George H.W.Bush (US President) Texan oil firm Zapata. Zapata are no longer in oil and gas but they were then operating 100s of oil wells in Texas.

I think the whole argument of what industry billionaires make their money in is boring and without value but if idiot Man Utd fans want to go down that route, ask them about the Glazers and Zapata.

Football clubs in the UK have been the personal fiefdoms of private owners since their inception, and MCFC are no different. As the Premier League generated more and more money, then global capital moved in, and here we are in a league where every Premier League club are owned by billionaires who have political influence in the running of countries. The British media is itself owned by billionaires and yet their writers indulge in this oil-money garbage. Journalists who do this deserve to be shunned and ignored because they are either incredibly stupid or incredibly cynical. Who are you working for? Why is it that your life's work is spent in the employment of a media company who generate revenue by smearing football clubs. How rewarding is that?
 
Marvin said:
If Manchester City are an oil club because of the business interests of the owner Sheikh Mansour, then Man Utd are an oil-club because of the business history of Malcolm Glazer. In the 1980s Malcolm Glazer was invested in and later obtained a controlling interest in George H.W.Bush (US President) Texan oil firm Zapata. Zapata are no longer in oil and gas but they were then operating 100s of oil wells in Texas.

I think the whole argument of what industry billionaires make their money in is boring and without value but if idiot Man Utd fans want to go down that route, ask them about the Glazers and Zapata.

Football clubs in the UK have been the personal fiefdoms of private owners since their inception, and MCFC are no different. As the Premier League generated more and more money, then global capital moved in, and here we are in a league where every Premier League club are owned by billionaires who have political influence in the running of countries. The British media is itself owned by billionaires and yet their writers indulge in this oil-money garbage. Journalists who do this deserve to be shunned and ignored because they are either incredibly stupid or incredibly cynical. Who are you working for? Why is it that your life's work is spent in the employment of a media company who generate revenue by smearing football clubs. How rewarding is that?
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Marvin.

If you want to ‘know your enemy’ this, from 2004 and pre Utd takeover, is worth a read.

Their method of paying little and extracting lots is well established.

Glazer's style is more mouth than money

The financially challenged offer for Manchester United by American Malcolm Glazer and his band of ambitious children is not the first time the secretive family has aimed to buy something without apparently having the money to pay for it.
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
 
BeerIsTheBest said:
Marvin.

If you want to ‘know your enemy’ this, from 2004 and pre Utd takeover, is worth a read.

Their method of paying little and extracting lots is well established.

Glazer's style is more mouth than money

The financially challenged offer for Manchester United by American Malcolm Glazer and his band of ambitious children is not the first time the secretive family has aimed to buy something without apparently having the money to pay for it.
www.standard.co.uk www.standard.co.uk
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The Glazers are brilliant.........for City.
What a load of shysters.
 
jonah62 said:
I had 2 Liverpool fans on today’s wine tour
They live in Queensland
He was from Reigate in Surrey, she from Iceland !
Within 2 minutes of setting off, they were straight into me, 6 euro cups, 20 league titles blah fuckin blah oil money…
“You’ll always have the title of the most killings at a game to be proud of as well”
Not a peep out of the cunts for the next 5 hours.
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Plus the net spend trophy annually since 2008 la
 
A club in free fall, fantv making profit from their demise, owners not willing to invest properly, living off past glories, a succession of failed managers, media spotlight.

It's Arsenal all over again, all we need are the fan protests and banners on planes, and I think we've even had that. Mid table club in 3 or 4 years (Unless they hit lucky)
 
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