United Thread - 2021/22

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The hate is draining away from me. All those years I could barely avoid hearing how great they were - be it from the poxy media or hordes of glory seekers. When I'm told I should love or respect something but I feel like I'm the only one who knows the truth about it, it really winds me up. It's nice to just ignore the useless gits.
 
DC1982 said:
I think you're both right, to a degree. You're right on the type of player he is but I think he has more talent than the other donkeys there and is still young/raw enough for a Pep type manager to coach the stupidity out of him. He has good tools, just no clue how to use them. You can't say that about any of their other players really. He's about the only young/youngish one in their squad that I actually believe would be a better player with great coaching. The rest are lost causes.

It's not like Rashford who from day one you could see was a technically bereft kick and run merchant. Greenwood actually has some technical ability. He's probably the only decent youngster they've brought through since the crass of 92
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Hi Ralf, welcome to Bluemoon
 
eyalluvitt said:
Maybe he has a helpful wife?
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Haha yes I admit I’m a FOC
 
gazbaz said:
Hi Ralf, welcome to Bluemoon
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Lol I am not saying he's the new Pele or anything, just that he has a bit more potential than the other muppets in their squad. Will he ever be good enough to start for a title winning team, even if he had Pep level coaching? Doubtful. but he'd be a half decent player rather than the selfish shoot on sight clown he is now.
 
Surely their transfer window is completely fucked. None of the players they actually have seem to want to play for them. They don't seem to be able to offload any of their overpaid, underperforming and badly coached muppets. Nobody seems to be chomping at the bit to be abysmally coached and left sat on the sidelines next to donny on the bench and phil the face.
 
United...where careers go to die

Just about sums them up. No matter how much money they spend on good players, they never get the best out of them.
They are so afraid of not being in the top four, they are actually causing themselves not to be in the top four.

The penny might drop one day, that they have to stand back and sacrifice two or three seasons for longer term success. However, they have so much pressure to keep their sponsors happy that they just cannot afford to do that.

Long may this continue!
 
ScottSinclair said:
Since they are going nowhere I would love us to get into Greenwood's ear. The earlier we can save him the better. Quality talent getting closer to becoming the next Martial every counting minute he spends in that toxic cesspit of mediocrity and delusion. Maybe Phil can have a word
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I can see why Mancini never took to you Scott.
 
One thing's for sure - the Rags are in a right mess and it's going to take major surgery to sort them out. And, apart from that, it's going to cost ££££££££s, not least in getting rid of the dross they've got, given that few clubs, if any, will pay transfer fees and stupid wages for any of them. Like there is talk Ronaldo wants to go. Where? Even if he goes on a free, who in world football is giving him the same wedge?

It's glorious, and I see no end to it. They can't even hope to be bought out by Saudi anymore. The whole club needs a total restructure. A new team, a rebuilt training ground, and a rebuilt stadium. You are looking at billions. Even then, you need someone in as manager at least as good as, say, Klopp. They are a million miles off. They won't get near Chelsea or Liverpool, let alone City.

The laugh is some of their fans still think they will get 4th, or win the Champions League. Mind you, a lot more can see it ain't happening.
 
DC1982 said:
I think you're both right, to a degree. You're right on the type of player he is but I think he has more talent than the other donkeys there and is still young/raw enough for a Pep type manager to coach the stupidity out of him. He has good tools, just no clue how to use them. You can't say that about any of their other players really. He's about the only young/youngish one in their squad that I actually believe would be a better player with great coaching. The rest are lost causes.

It's not like Rashford who from day one you could see was a technically bereft kick and run merchant. Greenwood actually has some technical ability. He's probably the only decent youngster they've brought through since the crass of 92
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Greenwood looks like a decent finisher but has nothing else about his game that suggests he will ever be an elite-level player. He seems to have no awareness of what is happening on the pitch. He has obviously been bady coached, for example he runs with his head down with no ability to spot the next pass. Modern football requires players to be much more than just finishers. It is hard to judge because, like all United's young players, he has gone backwards with his development. Cole Palmer already looks a much better all-round player.
 
I have been watching City since ‘55. Been through all the good years and then the poor years; the years of having the piss taken for being a blue. They were running things for years; just click their fingers and all the good players would rush to join them. How the turd has turned; now they can’t get a decent manager, players won’t join them unless for huge money, they need a new stadium. It’s going to cost them massive amounts of money and take years of development.

It is wonderful. So happy I lived this long to see it happen.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Greenwood looks like a decent finisher but has nothing else about his game that suggests he will ever be an elite-level player. He seems to have no awareness of what is happening on the pitch. He has obviously been bady coached, for example he runs with his head down with no ability to spot the next pass. Modern football requires players to be much more than just finishers. It is hard to judge because, like all United's young players, he has gone backwards with his development. Cole Palmer already looks a much better all-round player.
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Yes I agree with all that. I was just saying that I think he would be a better player than he is now, and more of a team player, with better coaching. I have seen Greenwood play the odd lovely crossfield pass or nice give and go but like you say it is slim pickings. I haven't seen enough of Palmer to know how much potential he has but I know you have a much better academy than them so don't doubt your words. I am sure he is well versed in intelligent, non-selfish play, unlike Greenwood.

Believe me, if your'e talking about preferring all-round team players to selfish finishers who offer nothing else to a side (cough Ronaldo cough) you're preaching to the choir. I just think Greenwood is young enough to have it coached out of him to an extent. He is stuck at Man U though so it will never happen.
 
From one of their numerous threads regarding their shite midfield (the lack of joined up thinking runs deep over there)
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I would genuinely move Maguire into midfield. He can tackle, pass and drive forward. He isnt the most graceful on the ball but he virtually plays midfield with the ball at his feet anyway when he starts. Removes the pressure of being central defence and gives us more legs in midfield. He has the skillset to do it well IMO
 
Fred_Quimby said:
I have been watching City since ‘55. Been through all the good years and then the poor years; the years of having the piss taken for being a blue. They were running things for years; just click their fingers and all the good players would rush to join them. How the turd has turned; now they can’t get a decent manager, players won’t join them unless for huge money, they need a new stadium. It’s going to cost them massive amounts of money and take years of development.

It is wonderful. So happy I lived this long to see it happen.
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And the timings perfect , we,re on the crest of a wave , big investment at Newcastle ,Chelsea , others too will all serve to keep them average at best for the foreseeable future ,for them it’s a perfect storm but few of their fans will acknowledge it!
 
Postman Pep said:
From one of their numerous threads regarding their shite midfield (the lack of joined up thinking runs deep over there)
Now this I would love to see


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I would genuinely move Maguire into midfield. He can tackle, pass and drive forward. He isnt the most graceful on the ball but he virtually plays midfield with the ball at his feet anyway when he starts. Removes the pressure of being central defence and gives us more legs in midfield. He has the skillset to do it well IMO
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It always makes me laugh when morons come out with shite like that. I have heard suggestions for Maguire, Wan Bissaka and Lindelof to play in midfield from them, and the guys who say it are always being 100 per cent serious and believing they're being tactically astute.

First of all, playing in midfield is a whole other ball game from defence. In defence you have the game in front of you, yes there is pressure from strikers, but a midfielder has to receive the ball, often on the turn, and pass between a congested area of the pitch, as well as orchestrate and control the game. It is a completely different ball game. I heard them say AWB can play there cos he can tackle and is fast, as if athleticism and tackling ability are the only considerations for a midfielder. The best midfielders rarely slide tackle, they intercept and have great positioning (rodri, Busquets). Wan Bissaka, Lindelof and Maguire are all technical lepers with low football IQ and little to no short passing ability and who would all be torn to pieces in central midfield.

Think of it this way. Real Madrid experimented with Sergio Ramos in midfield for a while, a much more technically talented player than the above. And he struggled big time in there. But they think guys like Maguire can do it.

I honestly hope that guy is taking the piss because it is frightening that someone who follows football as a fan and presumably has been for years could be that tactically clueless and oblivious.
 
Postman Pep said:
From one of their numerous threads regarding their shite midfield (the lack of joined up thinking runs deep over there)
Now this I would love to see


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I would genuinely move Maguire into midfield. He can tackle, pass and drive forward. He isnt the most graceful on the ball but he virtually plays midfield with the ball at his feet anyway when he starts. Removes the pressure of being central defence and gives us more legs in midfield. He has the skillset to do it well IMO
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Got to be a poor undercover blue surely no one can be that stupid?
 
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