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bluethrunthru said:
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The picture of Trump with the slogan 'more jobs' is a common theme among many of the hard core low IQ Trump supporters who labour under the delusion that there was full employment during his presidency. The fact is that unemployment was at the highest level in history under Trump and he's the only president to leave office with negative job growth and unemployment higher than when he took office.
 
laserblue said:
The picture of Trump with the slogan 'more jobs' is a common theme among many of the hard core low IQ Trump supporters who labour under the delusion that there was full employment during his presidency. The fact is that unemployment was at the highest level in history under Trump and he's the only president to leave office with negative job growth and unemployment higher than when he took office.
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Facts do not matter in US politics. We've seen that in Georgia with Herschel Walker.

www.politico.com

Walker’s Christian fans unfazed by abortion revelations

The anti-abortion GOP Senate nominee's supporters say they care more about his policies than about his behavior.
www.politico.com www.politico.com
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
It’s all cognitive dissonance and anchoring as it has been for years and years.
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Agree but outside of the rabid GOP base there must be some wavering voters some where. And the biggest driver for voting in these mid terms is womens rights / abortion. He must have lost a number of votes over this. How many - no idea. But its a close race and if he losses by 1% then this has lost it for him.
 
SWP's back said:
That’s just fucking mental. I honestly used to think the USA’s system of checks and balances was great. But it’s not even close to be a robust system.
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Echoing what FogBlue said previously. The USA system of governance is robust for the most part - indeed, the system withstood Trump's aggressive efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. The electoral college is a weak point though - creating numerous unnecessary vulnerabilities for exploit. A simple, nationwide majority vote to decide the presidency would be much better.

A much larger problem than the intrinsic robustness of the system, is that governance in the USA does not reflect majority opinion on numerous issues.
 
Gaudion M said:
Agree but outside of the rabid GOP base there must be some wavering voters some where. And the biggest driver for voting in these mid terms is womens rights / abortion. He must have lost a number of votes over this. How many - no idea. But its a close race and if he losses by 1% then this has lost it for him.
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You'd think so - but apparently it isn't so according to polling - but perhaps polling is wrong yet again. As terrible as Walker is as a candidate - and however hypocritical he might be - the Republican base is 100% behind him. And that, apparently, is enough to almost see him over the line.

Extreme lack of moral character is no longer an obstacle to election for Republican candidates.
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
You'd think so - but apparently it isn't so according to polling - but perhaps polling is wrong yet again. As terrible as Walker is as a candidate - and however hypocritical he might be - the Republican base is 100% behind him. And that, apparently, is enough to almost see him over the line.

Extreme lack of moral character is no longer an obstacle to election for Republican candidates.
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Its very close. Almost impossible to call it.
 
Gaudion M said:
Agree but outside of the rabid GOP base there must be some wavering voters some where. And the biggest driver for voting in these mid terms is womens rights / abortion. He must have lost a number of votes over this. How many - no idea. But its a close race and if he losses by 1% then this has lost it for him.
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Wavering voters tend to just not vote. Georgia is as Red as they come, and gerrymandered to death (Hence MTG getting elected)
 
Gaudion M said:
Agree but outside of the rabid GOP base there must be some wavering voters some where. And the biggest driver for voting in these mid terms is womens rights / abortion. He must have lost a number of votes over this. How many - no idea. But its a close race and if he losses by 1% then this has lost it for him.
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abortion and women rights. I suppose Americans dont care about mass illegal immigration, inflation, debacle of Afghanistan, crime etc. How wrong I was
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Wavering voters tend to just not vote. Georgia is as Red as they come, and gerrymandered to death (Hence MTG getting elected)
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I'd say historically thats right, it is hardcore bible belt GOP territory. But the Dems took the 2 Senate seats last time out. They have paper thin majorities. On the basis you always get a mid term rebound this should be a slam dunk GOP win.

In the GOP favour
1. Last time out Trump was practically working against the local GOP with his stolen election / everything is fraud claims. On the basis the Party was not 100% behind him and the Georgia Governor would not bend he stitched up the local candidates. That is not an issue this time.

In the the Dems favour a couple of things.
1, The abortion SCOTUS issue has railed the progressive voters.
2, Biden is doing better than expected right now, he's up in the polls and Trump is way down.
3, The GOP have terrible candidates and people generally - many of the MAGA candidates are doing very badly. Dems have out fundraised the GOP and seem to be getting better results on what they spend.

But its very early days, events in the next 4 weeks will swing all races one way or another.
 
bobmcfc said:


Nice Joe, very nice lol
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There you go. Not too difficult is it? All this Sleepy Joe shit etc - the benefit of an elder statesman is he has seen it all happen he knows what issues it causes and can come to a judgement - yes they have failed in this battle against marijuana but what he is signalling here is its a wrong battle that should never have taken place.
 
bluethrunthru said:
There you go. Not too difficult is it? All this Sleepy Joe shit etc - the benefit of an elder statesman is he has seen it all happen he knows what issues it causes and can come to a judgement - yes they have failed in this battle against marijuana but what he is signalling here is its a wrong battle that should never have taken place.
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He's just made a world of difference to a lot of people.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Echoing what FogBlue said previously. The USA system of governance is robust for the most part - indeed, the system withstood Trump's aggressive efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. The electoral college is a weak point though - creating numerous unnecessary vulnerabilities for exploit. A simple, nationwide majority vote to decide the presidency would be much better.

A much larger problem than the intrinsic robustness of the system, is that governance in the USA does not reflect majority opinion on numerous issues.
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Great post. To call them the USA is disingenuous. They are far from that its more like 2 countries in one battling against itself
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Echoing what FogBlue said previously. The USA system of governance is robust for the most part - indeed, the system withstood Trump's aggressive efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. The electoral college is a weak point though - creating numerous unnecessary vulnerabilities for exploit. A simple, nationwide majority vote to decide the presidency would be much better.

A much larger problem than the intrinsic robustness of the system, is that governance in the USA does not reflect majority opinion on numerous issues.
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The Electoral College is a massive weak point in the system, but let's not forget that the USA was a single Mike Pence away from a successful coup.
 
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