US Politics Thread

[mancity2012_eamo]

I'm one of those old fashioned types who think the legal system isn't corrupt so we should probably just go with what they think. You know, like with the 115 stuff that we're definitely guilty of according to everyone else who have pretty good ideas. People accused should stand trial rather than being cleared without a trial by a powerful political ally. Again, it's an old fashioned opinion now I know but can't shake it personally.

Excuse me.
Are you a moderator?
I mean, If it’s not too personal a question…..
Are you a moderator?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Yes, it's truly amazing how I seem to reach conclusions about what people might do in the future based on their behavio(u)r in the past. Just incredible that a human might operate that way. Who could possibly conclude that Trump might use the Justice Department to go after his political enemies? There's no evidence whatsoever that he's ever implied or done such. Which you know, of course.

Incidentally, I am not arguing pre-emptive pardons or even pardons generally are okay btw. I was very much against Biden's pardoning of Hunter for a variety of reasons, e.g. and said so.

I think one point that is being missed is that the judicial system would hold no fear for people who have not committed criminal acts.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

This is a political subforum. If you don't want to discuss politics with others then I suggest you don't read here. Trying to rally others to block someone because you don't like their opinions is bullshit and won't be tolerated

It's happened a lot on this thread where a few zealots try to make it an anti- trump safe space for their view point. One even admitted to being a democrat activist which makes it pretty sinister really.
It seemed to have calmed down a bit post 5 Nov, but it seems the impending inauguration is something of a trigger.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I think one point that is being missed is that the judicial system would hold no fear for people who have not committed criminal acts.

THAT could be the funniest thing I have ever read on here!

The Joke Thread is >>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[ChicagoBlue]

It's happened a lot on this thread where a few zealots try to make it an anti- trump safe space for their view point. One even admitted to being a democrat activist which makes it pretty sinister really.
It seemed to have calmed down a bit post 5 Nov, but it seems the impending inauguration is something of a trigger.

Stop, you’re hurting my sides with all this laughing! And, you’re sounding like a far left loon with your “safe space,” “sinister” and “trigger” comments!

Two in a row…you’re on a roll!

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I think one point that is being missed is that the judicial system would hold no fear for people who have not committed criminal acts.

Only if you don’t value time and money.

Which is the point you miss.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Stop, you’re hurting my sides with all this laughing! And, you’re sounding like a far left loon with your “safe space,” “sinister” and “trigger” comments!

Two in a row…you’re on a roll!

I notice you have not actually disagreed or contradicted me though.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

“You lot”

80 million in a population of 330 million means there could be a rather large majority not in favor of him, but let’s lump all 330 million into your predetermined “lot.”

And, again, we are going to have to live with the decision of many, many undereducated voters (who are also going to have to live with his lies and “changes of heart”), but let’s not overegg it by saying liberals got “battered”!!

Liberals ran a half Jamaican-half Indian American woman from the most liberal state in the nation…and she lost by about 1.5%!

As I said, now let’s watch and learn…

The only thing we're going to learn here is how low they are prepared to go. I suspect there is not bottom.

 

[Vic]

I'm one of those old fashioned types who think the legal system isn't corrupt so we should probably just go with what they think. You know, like with the 115 stuff that we're definitely guilty of according to everyone else who have pretty good ideas. People accused should stand trial rather than being cleared without a trial by a powerful political ally. Again, it's an old fashioned opinion now I know but can't shake it personally.

It doesn't really matter, because Trump's just said he will end the weaponisation of the justice department, so none of those that Biden has pardoned would be accused anyway.

Yeah, sure.

 

[Vic]

Not a person anywhere thought Trump would win the Popular Vote. Yet he did. I can't stand the horrible bastard but near 80 Million of you lot have put him in charge.

Hey, I have no evidence but that's no reason not to believe he stole the election - especially after all his warnings of irregularity.

 

[Vic]

I think one point that is being missed is that the judicial system would hold no fear for people who have not committed criminal acts.

Thank you, Senator McCarthy.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I notice you have not actually disagreed or contradicted me though.

I thought the pointing and laughing would be a clue. Perhaps you’re a tad more literal?!

1) There are innocent people in jail. Do you think they had nothing to fear from the judicial system?

2) While generally pretty leftie, it’s amusing (to say the least) listening to righties complaining about zealots, when most people (not just on here) would see any defence of Trump’s actions, or the current cult of personality, as the thing that was “sinister.”

3) Why do you feel this is not a “safe space” for Trump lovers? Because you get push back? You’re asked to back up your musings with facts? I see and read plenty of right wing, Trumper claptrap here, but I don’t cower in the corner pleading for some “safe space” or find it “triggering.” Silly, dumb, ill-informed, lazy, nonsensical…sure, but not triggering.

I live in a reality based world, where facts and science save my life every day. I usually find it easy to spot fact-free nonsense. Sadly, that’s been available from both sides recently, but to even suggest it’s anywhere close to even would be wrong in the extreme.

Let’s watch and learn together, and discuss as we go, shall we?

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

It's happened a lot on this thread where a few zealots try to make it an anti- trump safe space for their view point. One even admitted to being a democrat activist which makes it pretty sinister really.
It seemed to have calmed down a bit post 5 Nov, but it seems the impending inauguration is something of a trigger.

Name one thing Trump has done to enrich the lives of someone who isn't a Trump or a rich donor for anything other than selfish reasons?

He's purely transactional. If you don't benefit him, you don't matter. The kind of guy you wouldn't trust to help out on a school trip let alone lead a country.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I thought the pointing and laughing would be a clue. Perhaps you’re a tad more literal?!

1) There are innocent people in jail. Do you think they had nothing to fear from the judicial system?

2) While generally pretty leftie, it’s amusing (to say the least) listening to righties complaining about zealots, when most people (not just on here) would see any defence of Trump’s actions, or the current cult of personality, as the thing that was “sinister.”

3) Why do you feel this is not a “safe space” for Trump lovers? Because you get push back? You’re asked to back up your musings with facts? I see and read plenty of right wing, Trumper claptrap here, but I don’t cower in the corner pleading for some “safe space” or find it “triggering.” Silly, dumb, ill-informed, lazy, nonsensical…sure, but not triggering.

I live in a reality based world, where facts and science save my life every day. I usually find it easy to spot fact-free nonsense. Sadly, that’s been available from both sides recently, but to even suggest it’s anywhere close to even would be wrong in the extreme.

Let’s watch and learn together, and discuss as we go, shall we?

Sorry, didn't realise I was a 'trump lover'. Yet another example of how anyone that doesn't confirm to the myopic one sided view is put in a neat little box.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Name one thing Trump has done to enrich the lives of someone who isn't a Trump or a rich donor for anything other than selfish reasons?

He's purely transactional. If you don't benefit him, you don't matter. The kind of guy you wouldn't trust to help out on a school trip let alone lead a country.

Yes, I think I've said many times before on this thread that all he will do is further enrich the billionaires that put him in office. Thanks for reminding me of my own much stated view point though.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Yes, I think I've said many times before on this thread that all he will do is further enrich the billionaires that put him in office. Thanks for reminding me of my own much stated view point though.

Then I'm not sure why you, on the face of it appear to be playing the 'both sides' game?

The majority of the people on this thread are anti-Trump because it's the only reasonable stance.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Then I'm not sure why you, on the face of it appear to be playing the 'both sides' game?

The majority of the people on this thread are anti-Trump because it's the only reasonable stance.

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It's a discussion of US politics not an 'I hate trump' or democrat support group.

 

[Frank the Yank]

Hmmm, won the White House by the slimmest vote margin (~1.5%) in years, is hanging onto the House by a thread, but picked up a small majority in the Senate.

It’s like losing a tight game in injury time to an own goal and saying the loser got battered!

Anyway, now it’s time to govern and legislate. Let’s watch and

“You lot”

80 million in a population of 330 million means there could be a rather large majority not in favor of him, but let’s lump all 330 million into your predetermined “lot.”

And, again, we are going to have to live with the decision of many, many undereducated voters (who are also going to have to live with his lies and “changes of heart”), but let’s not overegg it by saying liberals got “battered”!!

Liberals ran a half Jamaican-half Indian American woman from the most liberal state in the nation…and she lost by about 1.5%!

As I said, now let’s watch and learn…

Name one thing Trump has done to enrich the lives of someone who isn't a Trump or a rich donor for anything other than selfish reasons?

He's purely transactional. If you don't benefit him, you don't matter. The kind of guy you wouldn't trust to help out on a school trip let alone lead a country.

During Trumps first term inflation was low, energy prices were low, unemployment was low(especially for minorities), growth was decent, the dollar was rather strong, real wages.went up, the poverty level for minorities dropped to all time low levels.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Proud Boys marching through Washington.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Frank the Yank]

My goodness, Sleepy Creepy dropped another turd in the form of a blanket pardon for not only his brother but many other family members. Hunmmm, I was hoping he thought he had already done it and would never get around to it. I am sure his brother reminded him!!