US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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No, they run the whole illegal immigration racket. Some of their demands include fealty from the men crossing, sex/rape as payment for young women crossing and the use of children as crossing tools.

Outside of the ICE agents, it's the people who live near the border who see first hand the horrors of illegal immigration.
Got it now. So in those circumstances no surprise that Starr County voted for a change. Thanks.
 
I never thought FL would flip but I did think IO was significant. I am not too surprised by GA and NC but though she'd waltz MI and would win PA. Oh well.
NC and Wisconsin were the 2 I thought she'd win.

NC because of the silly Republican Gubernatorial candidate who was a drag and Wisconsin as I thought it was the safest of the Blue Wall States. Didn't think Pennsylvania will hold due to depressed minority enthusiasm and the Palestine Left convinced me Michigan would flip.

But it's all guess work. Wisconsin fell by half a point, Michigan by 1 point and Pennsylvania by less than 2?.

They all turned out to be toss ups.
 
This is hysterical bed wetting nonsense. Trump is nowhere near power or effecting change until well into the new year. Ultimately this is all happening on the current governments watch.
I can appreciate anxiety at what is to come and that a minority of Americans are upset about the election result, but the simultaneously contradictory views that are held by some of you at present are just silly.
It’s mainstream because the **** started with this rhetoric in 2016 or did you miss all that? Now with the other ubercunt Musk he’s got greater reach.
 
The same people who thought Florida could be flipped were the same people who broke the jizz-o-meter when that bogus Iowa poll came out.
I kinda liked the Iowa poll. Even though it turned out to be wrong. I found it to be more honest than most polls.

In elections past we used to see so many wildly divergent polls. And it was the aggregation of those divergent polls and their trajectory overtime that gave us a good sense of what the landscape looked like.

Unfortunately in this cycle, it seems pollsters were all putting their thumbs on their poll results and artificially made all the polls within the margin of error... Which was annoying S it gave little to no indication. I believe Nate Silver complained about the phenomenon.

Anyway all the polls ended up being kinda right and wrong at the same time.

Uber boring.
 
Thats a rather odd take. Doesnt it anger you, or at the very least irk you, that pollsters saw fit to "put their thumbs on the scale"?

What makes it worse is the same day that poll came out there was a poll by Emerson University that had Trump winning by 13. Trump won by 13.

Nobody in the main stream media reported the Emerson poll........
 
Thats a rather odd take. Doesnt it anger you, or at the very least irk you, that pollsters saw fit to "put their thumbs on the scale"?
That's what I disliked. The polls were close according to almost of the posters because they were too scared to be honest.

Polls are supposed diverge because pollsters are using different baseline metrics. That Iowa poll clearly was.

What makes it worse is the same day that poll came out there was a poll by Emerson University that had Trump winning by 13. Trump won by 13.

Nobody in the main stream media reported the Emerson poll........
Fox covered it. And if you are not on the left and watch more than just CNN and MSNBC you knew about it.
 
It’s mainstream because the **** started with this rhetoric in 2016 or did you miss all that? Now with the other ubercunt Musk he’s got greater reach.
He's got greater reach because of the American electorate choosing to give him it. All the culture wars stuff is just a stalking horse to distract people from his actual intent which is to make very rich people even richer by getting rid of regulation. It's probably just a crass return to a more extreme form of Reaganomics.
 
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