US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[moomba]

How will that be accomplished? Importers pay tariffs.

Not according to Trump.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Another thing the Democrats did wrong was wheel out celebrity after celebrity (some who are even involved in the P Diddy and Jay Z shit). Not well-off hard working people will look at these millionaires and think, ‘fuck off, if it’s a positive for you and all your money, it probably isn’t a positive for me, so I’m not voting that way’.

Again I wonder how many Dem voters stayed at home?

Unlike the republicans who were endorsed by Jon Voight, Russel Brand, Dennis Quaid, Mel Gibson, Kid Rock, Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, Mike Tyson and Hulk Hogan struggling to rip of his shirt at every rally.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Well I thought for months that he would win but that result is a big one. How wrong were all those polls?

He has been crystal clear in how ruthless and autocratic and even vindictive he wants to be, and he has been given a massive mandate to do it. This must be how Americans want it to be

 

[KS55]

It’s called behaving like an adult and statesmen.

Sometimes you have to work with people who you don’t particularly like or respect for the greater good.

The Labour government and Starmer in particular will have to swallow their pride and try and get the best outcome possible for the UK without compromising our own beliefs and being potentially tainted by association.

It’s a very challenging position.

Or oleaginous greasing.
I’m not sure what the ‘special relationship’ offers the UK but it seems obligatory for every PM to mention it. Nobody else does.

 

[franksinatra]

I thought she came across very well. It just seems that the USA is more brainwashed than her supporters hoped.

Listening to a few UK podcasts one of the main accusations levelled at her was she never really sold a vision to the US electorate and her campaign was not bold enough.

Tactically it could be argued it was similar to Labours. More aimed at avoiding mistakes and providing policy which could be criticised and hoping the Republicans, and Trump in particular, would derail his own campaign.

 

[inbetween]

China may be going well now but they're fucked when they get the bill to pay all of Trumps tariffs.

But that isn't how tariffs work. If Trump imposes tariffs then it is Americans who will pay those tariffs. Import costs are paid by the importer, IE, passed onto the customer. Trump has said he'll fix inflation but tariffs increase inflation immediately.

Personally I think western countries need to stop the anti-China rhetoric. They're only going to become the largest economy by a long stretch so it makes sense to work with them and take advantage of that.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

You want some?

Pinko

 

[The perfect fumble]

It’s called behaving like an adult and statesmen.

Sometimes you have to work with people who you don’t particularly like or respect for the greater good.

That's true.

Whatever one thinks of Starmer, after years of grifters and the unhinged in Downing Street, we do, at the very least, have an adult in Number 10.

Starmer does not disgrace this country, which is more than can be said for his immediate predecessors.

 

[BlueHammer85]

My view is what it has always been. The culture war stuff is a red herring and people vote with their wallets.

If you feel poorer than you did four years ago, you vote out the current government. Whether it's their fault or not it doesn't really matter, it's just how it works.

The post-covid inflation bubble has killed the Democrats' campaign, not all the 'woke vs anti woke' stuff. That's all just noise IMO. Same in this country. Look at when there are big changes in government, it's always the economy, stupid.

And that's an area where Harris and Biden consistently polled far behind Trump. Game over. I said it years ago.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

You have a unique way of spelling "for"!

The British PM doesn't work for anyone other than the British people.