US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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I'm pretty sure he'll implode and after 4 years his voters will realize he doesn't give a shit about them.
However the Democrats have to change drastically to benefit. Less of the Springsteen, Clooney and Taylor Swift stuff and more about healthcare, job security and cost of living.
I think wheeling out celebrity after celebrity really cost them. They have an image of Hollywood elite now. Ordinary people couldn’t care less about that.
 
We had three threads on here that were all just basically outpourings of hate/rage/ fear about trump and anyone questioning Kamala's suitability, popularity or likelihood of winning was pretty much abused. Mostly by the characters that have now largely slunk off after weeks throwing their treasured opinions around like facts.
The echo chamber is alive
People who only listen to what they want to hear and then cant understand why something like this happens.

Even yesterday someone on here was telling us the polls were wrong etc and Kamala would win.
The truth is people in America wanted change and Kamala Harris didn't offer anything at all.....let alone change.
They also told us a few months ago that Biden was as sharp as they come, now he's the problem
 
Her, that’s why, if it was a bloke then they might have had a better night, and I mean a bloke who knows where the fuck he is.
Or maybe they would have voted for a woman who had a plan, or a policy, or who could answer questions, hold a press conference, speak to real people, sell a dream, inspire working Americans........
 
I think this shock win is a message for all of us and certainly the government and next UK election.

Labour have to get the next couple of years right because if they don't then we're headed for this madness too.

Some areas of Europe are already going there.
Their future depends on global events, you need luck to have multiple terns. It's unfortunately mainly out of their hands.
 
I think wheeling out celebrity after celebrity really cost them. They have an image of Hollywood elite now. Ordinary people couldn’t care less about that.
But those people are so self-important that they can't possibly accept that they're not needed in that situation. Like trying to convince Cristiano Ronaldo that he'd be more useful coming off the bench. He's too full of himself to ever accept that.
 
I think wheeling out celebrity after celebrity really cost them. They have an image of Hollywood elite now. Ordinary people couldn’t care less about that.
tells you all you need to know when you wheel Springsteen out again. He would urge you to vote for a traffic cone if it was a democrat traffic cone.
Dont get me wrong im a big Springsteen fan, but even New Jersey folk seem fed up of him now.
 
Or maybe they would have voted for a woman who had a plan, or a policy, or who could answer questions, hold a press conference, speak to real people, sell a dream, inspire working Americans........

Laughable really as all Trump does is say he will fix this he will do that they will be the best, there is zero context. Why is he allowed to get away with it but Harris wasn't?
 
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