US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

[Dax777]

Not much they could do about the primary.

If Biden had stuck to his promise. A new cadre of Dems would have appeared to run. He screwed the Democrats of that.

Agree to disagree. She was fine, and judged by a different standard to her opponent.

She wasn't fine. She was a robotic, uncomfortable candidate. Who spendy her whole campaign running away from positions she held a mere 4 years ago. She was bad all around.

But for the record, I said she was a terrible candidate to run against a headwind. Trump wasn't running against a headwind. I know the Main Stream Media painted a different picture than reality. But hey, we are here now.

Not even close to being a wash. Trump called her stupid daily, there wasn't a rally where he didn't call her incompetent or corrupt or evil. He questioned her race, he laughed at jokes about her working on a street corner. He said that he would like to see her in a ring with Mike Tyson.

She called him a racist, fascist threat to democracy. If you think that wasn't worse or on par. I guess we'll have to beg to differ.

She was asked if she agreed with a characterisation of Trump by his former chief of staff. She said yes.

No! She called him a threat to democracy many times. I guess you must have missed it.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

tells you all you need to know when you wheel Springsteen out again. He would urge you to vote for a traffic cone if it was a democrat traffic cone.
Dont get me wrong im a big Springsteen fan, but even New Jersey folk seem fed up of him now.

His old roadies certainly had a low opinion of him!

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Or maybe they would have voted for a woman who had a plan, or a policy, or who could answer questions, hold a press conference, speak to real people, sell a dream, inspire working Americans........

Or maybe Americans just wanted a fascist bully in charge and there was bugger all anyone normal could do about it.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Has there been any reason given for the vote turnout?

Currently:
81m-74m last time (wikipedia)
66-71 so far this time (from Google).

That's a huge change, even allowing for states still to declare. Not sure how many more there will be, 10-12m by the look(?) with a split not far off even (6 to about 4.6 mayb2, for a total of 72m-76m.

Trump will get more than he got last time in the end, Harris down by about 10m maybe.

I'm guessing the USA weren't ready to elect someone who was is woman and black.

 

[Jam Tomorrow]

Yeah, that's the thing. Scotus didn't give the President any far ranging powers.

That said, it's funny that the very people who were whaling about the excessive power of the Presidency are now clamouring for Biden to use those exact powers.

Interesting!

Why not? Sometimes you need to out shithouse the shithouses.

 

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I'm guessing the USA weren't ready to elect someone who was is woman and black.

Are you talking about the 2020 Democrats that voted for Biden but didn't vote for Harris?

 

[sir baconface]

The fundamental issueis with the voters who didn't vote for her because she has the audacity to be both a woman and black.

Always convenient to blame something you don’t understand on racism, sexism and other isms.

The fact is the odious c**t is here. He’s the leader of the world’s biggest power, a Narcissist and a disruptor who doesn’t give a fcuk about bleeding hearts in Britain or anywhere else. Instead of throwing turds in his direction, we and the Euro establishment need to worry about important stuff like NATO, Ukraine, Putin, international trade and climate change, all of which are now up in the air.

Not to despair, though, when we have political heavyweights like Starmer, Lammy and Rayner batting for our little ole country.

 

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Or maybe Americans just wanted a fascist bully in charge and there was bugger all anyone normal could do about it.

You mean those Americans in 2020 that voted for Biden but in 2024 didn't show up for Harris? Those Americans?

 

[Middedon]

I think wheeling out celebrity after celebrity really cost them. They have an image of Hollywood elite now. Ordinary people couldn’t care less about that.

This thought always gets mentioned and I just don’t see it. Unless you’re actively following a lot of celebrities or reading a lot of celebrity content, it’s pretty easy to ignore. Most legitimate media don’t make a huge deal of this. I feel this is something conservatives tend to trot out every time “we’re normal salt of the earth, they’re not.” And frankly, conservatives have just as many “celebs” that endorse them, they’re just not as famous so not covered as much by things like People magazine. Plenty of problems, but I think this is over stated.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Laughable really as all Trump does is say he will fix this he will do that they will be the best, there is zero context. Why is he allowed to get away with it but Harris wasn't?

Harris was held to a much higher standard by the MSM. Trump essentially had a free pass.