US Presidential Race 2016

[EalingBlue2]

Right yeah.... a country living on credit can bully the rest?? Size of the economy doesn't matter if its in negative equity - the Chinese could and would pull it down for the prize of winning the financial Cold War. China owns so much of the world debt and also the world needs Chinese investment they'd sell the fucking Yanks down the river and declare them bankrupt as soon as look at them believe me. For starters here alone need the Chinese for say Hinckley Point - as a govt whats best - the Yanks in turmoil or no power in your own country - HS2 depends on Chinese investment - most of the roads and shit in Africa were built by the Chinese - they could offer to ferry African refugees to European ports in their navy ships to unsettle the EU for Christs sake. You need to stop thinking in old or current terms - China has used its position as the worlds producer of cheap goods to accrue wealth and then effectively "own" so much of the worlds finances.

Bankruptcy only matters if there is a higher power in place to enforce the impact.

China has far bigger problems politically and economically than you credit them with

 

[Blue Hefner]

There was an interesting documentary on C4 last night talking about his chances. The missus hates him, but she doesn't get it - people follow him because he is different, the American people(apparently) haven't had job/wage growth in 40 years so they want something different.

Just look at their last lot of presidents:
Bush snr
Bush Snr
Bill clinton
Bill Clinton
Bush Jnr
Bush Jnr
Obama
Obama
Hillary Clinton???

It doesn't look like a country where 'anyone can become president' so no wonder the people are looking outside the establishment. Its just a shame their isn't an option with a bit more balance

 

[brass neck]

It's a corrupt system. If you want to get a real balance about what's going on. Follow The Young Turks on YouTube. Brilliant insight into the corrupt nature of US politics and how the media spin it for the establishment. If you followed MSM you wouldn't even know Bernie Sanders existed. But he is running Clinton very close. For me Trump is a diversionary tactic by the MSM to get the real dodgy character in. Clinton. The Young Turks have been analysing her tactics and history. It's a real pleasure to see REAL journalism for once.
These two have been recent ones. First brilliant analysis of the "tone" comments by the Clinton camp




And this is the brilliant interview of Sanders that help turn his campaign around.

 

[Moriati]

No need for anyone to flap about Trump being President. It's impossible for a non establishment Politician to be elected in the US. One assumes that in the very unlikely event that his campaign isn't railroaded, then an 'accident' will be forthcoming.

 

[kaz7]

Now he is saying women should be punished for having an termination,put on the spot he said he doesn't know what the punishment should be,he later said the doctors should be punished for doing them,this guy is a fucking nutcase,the americans wouldn't be that stupid would they?

 

[inchy14]

Now he is saying women should be punished for having an termination,put on the spot he said he doesn't know what the punishment should be,he later said the doctors should be punished for doing them,this guy is a fucking nutcase,the americans wouldn't be that stupid would they?

Well he's just won the Christian vote.....

 

[bluethrunthru]

Now he is saying women should be punished for having an termination,put on the spot he said he doesn't know what the punishment should be,he later said the doctors should be punished for doing them,this guy is a fucking nutcase,the americans wouldn't be that stupid would they?

Well he chooses to reveal his true self at times like this then illustrates how he is making it up as he goes along with his later retraction - he's a fuckwit who could be the next President of the United States........ not that he'd be the first one of them !!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

There was an interesting documentary on C4 last night talking about his chances. The missus hates him, but she doesn't get it - people follow him because he is different, the American people(apparently) haven't had job/wage growth in 40 years so they want something different.

Just look at their last lot of presidents:
Bush snr
Bush Snr
Bill clinton
Bill Clinton
Bush Jnr
Bush Jnr
Obama
Obama
Hillary Clinton???

It doesn't look like a country where 'anyone can become president' so no wonder the people are looking outside the establishment. Its just a shame their isn't an option with a bit more balance

Bush Snr was a one-term President.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The Republican orthodoxy are going to "kill" him before he becomes the nominee. Almost every news outlet is running his comments on a loop and right wing radio and TV are 24/7 against him. I don't think there is any way he wins a General Election. That said, you might want to take a look at Ted Cruz...he is bat shit crazy, too...just not in front of the cameras too often...and Republocans HATE him, too, but he is not The Donald!!

The brokered convention might be very interesting, with Trump supporters not embracing the Party, and the Party not embracing Trump, it could get ugly quickly. The political machinations that lead to a Nominee might be history-making, and could fracture the Republican Party for a good long while. Excellent, I say!!!

 

[EalingBlue2]

No need for anyone to flap about Trump being President. It's impossible for a non establishment Politician to be elected in the US. One assumes that in the very unlikely event that his campaign isn't railroaded, then an 'accident' will be forthcoming.

I am intrigued to see what happens. I don't believe he can win but the impact of him is fascinating.

Will he split from or just split the Republican Party? How much damage will he do them? Will his standing bring the house back to a place where a few moderate republicans can get stuff through with the dems? How do the republicans keep the senate with him on the ticket? Do the donors support him or just try to protect the house? Do republicans realise that if he tanks they could allow Ginsburg and Scalia to be replaced by two very young liberal justices and that most of the circuit courts and Supreme Court could be liberal for two generations?

Trump could do more damage to the republicans and to conservative politics than anyone since Andrew Jackson he could become a bigger liberal hero than Kennedy