Var debate 2019/20

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  1. GeorgeR

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    Vertonghen did the same in the first leg last season but VAR didn't intervene. I think Lloris was off his line as well.
    VAR should give consistency but that's not happening just yet.
     
  2. karen7

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    Not the basic VAR review as i know that,it's the VAR review that is looking for mm's to disallow the goal,they seem to be looking mighty hard at our goals with a view to disallowing it and not ruling on a stonewall pen
     
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  3. jollylescott

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    This is a good one.

    Last season in the Bundesliga, a referee denied a penalty claim just before half time. He then blew for half time and both teams went into their change rooms. VAR then intervened and the referee had to call both teams back out on the field. 6 minutes and 15 seconds after half time was blown, the penalty and taken and scored.

    Imagine that happening to City.
     
  4. coolcity

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    For me the greater issue isn't whether they're getting it right or wrong, it's what it is doing to the game. The last minute "goal", as well as the penalty decision, would have been one of those things and more or less accepted by either side pre-VAR, as we all kind of accept that the ref can't always get it right. That's how it's always been.

    But now we're looking at somebody sat in a bunker changing the ref's decisions effectively while we have no idea what he has seen (e.g. handball), or not seen (penalty) or why he is making the decision. You might as well let the pundits analyse the entire game after the event then make a case for it to be replayed if a wrong or missed decision costs you the match and maybe more. I don't see a lot of difference, especially if the match ref is making or changing his decision based on nothing more than what somebody sees on a small TV screen.

    I don't understand the mentality of that. I would rather lose and feel hard done by, by a ref that missed a penalty rather than somebody sat in an office somewhere watching something on TV that nobody else saw or had a problem with. Thinking back the the FIFA VAR room at the world cup the monitors didn't appear to be that big, and the big screen on the wall wasn't a particularly high resolution. It looked like a projected image rather than, say a large 4K TV.

    I also thought the rules were supposed to be the same for everybody at every level, apparently that's now not the case.
     
  5. deano ou812

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    Seen that myself it’s not clear cut,which means that the goal should have stood as the VAR officials can’t be 100% sure who’s arm it has grazed,they have guessed and ruled it out ..
     
  6. BlueAnorak

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    If an attackers arm touches the ball then the goal is rulled out. If it touches a defenders arm then it needs to be a touch outside of the natural silhouette of the defender to be considered a penalty. If any attacker touches a ball with their arm it's a free kick.
     
  7. Churchlawtonblue

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    Didn't Mike Riley state last month that VAR wasn't going to rereferee games and that they wouldn't be taking a hard line on hand ball decisions in games.

    Seriously think City should ask him what he meant by that remark based on yesterday's VAR decision.
     
  8. meltonblue

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    There’s been nothing contentious in others goals so far though.
     
  9. Cheer Up Peter Reid

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    Completely agree, and it's clear to me that even if the ball did brush Laporte's arm at no point did he have control of the ball so the goal should have stood.
     
  10. Stoned Rose

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    Give it time.
     
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