Var debate 2019/20

BlueHammer85 said:
Just have a difference of opinion Karen.

Already mentioned the negatives of VAR and have been more than balanced. For me it’s a case of really trying to make it work - however long it takes , rather than scraping it for the ‘old system’ where we have Refs and officials who make blind decisions.
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To make it work it needs the ****s in control to be honest and not cheat and then not come out and lie about it the day after.
 
karen7 said:
Absolutely not,if they gave it to one manager they would have to give it to everyone,they don't want us to hear it,their excuse for not letting us hear it is there is too much swearing,the players would soon learn to tone it down and accept when the ref indicated aVAR review and there is no point swearing at the ref
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“Us” ? Who do you mean by “us” Karen?
If you literally mean you and I then not at the moment, no (although I think that will come). I’m talking about internally to the club/manager, not for wider public consumption - I think they would have to do that it asked - because if they didn’t and this continues and snowballs each week, then at the next PL meeting, they will be putting intolerable pressure on rue referees, cos they are ruining the product, which hitherto has been a huge economic success for them all.
 
chesterbells said:
“Us” ? Who do you mean by “us” Karen?
If you literally mean you and I then not at the moment, no (although I think that will come). I’m talking about internally to the club/manager, not for wider public consumption - I think they would have to do that it asked - because if they didn’t and this continues and snowballs each week, then at the next PL meeting, they will be putting intolerable pressure on rue referees, cos they are ruining the product, which hitherto has been a huge economic success for them all.
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Yes sorry us meaning us fans,in one moment they have shown why they don't want us fans to hear what was said about the pen claim,there would be rioting in the ground if they did,as for managers i don't think it's in PIGMOLS interest to let them hear it either,if it gets out what was said then they could be in a whole heap of shit,if the papers got hold of it it could ruin them,it's easier for them to say you don't understand it and it's here to stay same as swarbrick has just told us fans,they can cover up any old shite and they will,even if it's an honest mistake they wouldn't admit it
 
karen7 said:
Yes sorry us meaning us fans,in one moment they have shown why they don't want us fans to hear what was said about the pen claim,there would be rioting in the ground if they did,as for managers i don't think it's in PIGMOLS interest to let them hear it either,if it gets out what was said then they could be in a whole heap of shit,if the papers got hold of it it could ruin them,it's easier for them to say you don't understand it and it's here to stay same as swarbrick has just told us fans,they can cover up any old shite and they will,even if it's an honest mistake they wouldn't admit it
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Seen this Karen?

https://en.as.com/en/2019/08/22/football/1566491499_498710.html
 
northwichblue said:
Var is a farce, let's face it, if a liverpool fan is in the studio at stockley viewing a City match they're never going to give a decision in Citys favour are they.
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Exactly. I actually think it might be an idea to get a former professional footballer making some of these decisions.Trouble with that is of course we might end up with Spitdog or Rat face calling the shots which would be an absolute nightmare.
 
citymad said:
Exactly. I actually think it might be an idea to get a former professional footballer making some of these decisions.Trouble with that is of course we might end up with Spitdog or Rat face calling the shots which would be an absolute nightmare.
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What about a nine member panel of ex-footballers, with a consensus required?

That should reduce the time it takes for VAR review and decision...
 
The var goal for us that was called off was bullsh**t. The ball hit Laportes hand by accident, he didn't purposely try to create a goal scoring opportunity.
 
Don't know if this as been asked yet but here goes.
If the accidental handball had led to Jesus being brought down and getting a penalty would it be ruled out by VAR?
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
We are the paying customers and we have been treated with contempt. Swarbrick and his cronies are being paid handsomely to run the VAR system but have no accountability. No one in the media has challenged the false claims he has been making all week about who made the decisions last weekend (ie not the referee) and why his team did not follow the IFAB rules. Former referees like Keith Hackett and Mark Halsey have made scathing attacks on what happened at the Spurs game. Swarbrick must think matchgoing fans are stupid.
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Martin Samuel has picked up on the false claims.
 
Apparently there are two VAR officials in their little den. They can overrule very experienced refs and the liners role is somewhat diminished. So for each match we now have a total of six officials and they still can't get it right.

Where have all these officials come from to fill the new vacancies as the officials at each match have increased by 50% virtually overnight? It seems a lot have been promoted too fast and even over-promoted.
 
Bob Hope said:
Don't know if this as been asked yet but here goes.
If the accidental handball had led to Jesus being brought down and getting a penalty would it be ruled out by VAR?
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It sounds a bit like Otamendi against Schalke last year when he gave a penalty away against someone who was off-side, I guess in this case unlike that one it wouldn't be because the "foul" has occurred, in Otamendi's case it hadn't (until the Schalke player touches the ball)
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
It sounds a bit like Otamendi against Schalke last year when he gave a penalty away against someone who was off-side, I guess in this case unlike that one it wouldn't be because the "foul" has occurred, in Otamendi's case it hadn't (until the Schalke player touches the ball)
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That was Dinho, Ota managed to handle the ball while facing it with his arms wrapped behind his back.
 
Fabled mabel said:
Apparently there are two VAR officials in their little den. They can overrule very experienced refs and the liners role is somewhat diminished. So for each match we now have a total of six officials and they still can't get it right.

Where have all these officials come from to fill the new vacancies as the officials at each match have increased by 50% virtually overnight? It seems a lot have been promoted too fast and even over-promoted.
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Especially, when our officials were already considered amongst the worst on the plant e.g. no ref at the Men’s World Cup.

Btw one of the VARs has come from Australia where I think he was a Rugby League ref. No doubt he’s done his conversion training
 
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