You have to accept the referee's decision, that is how I grew up,
"The decision is the decision. In 26 years I have had plenty of bad decisions, I have had plenty fall in my favour. It is what it is.
As I've mentioned previously, if everyone adopted his attitude to decisions, then fine, i would be more than happy to scrap VAR.
But I know for a fact fans will be in utter rage week in week out on refs decisions when a player is clearly offside or clearly dives with no contact etc.
Same as now then I guess, but with the loss of goal celebrations.
I am in favour of reliable speedy technology to help refs. The system now is not reliable, not fast, and is either infantilising refs or introducing subjective re refereeing. It could be so much better but there’s no Will to improve it
Who doesn‘t celebrate a goal? They’re all celebrated normally, then silence when the crowd realises there’s a check, followed by a secondary cheer or communal muttering of FFS.Same as now then I guess, but with the loss of goal celebrations.
I am in favour of reliable speedy technology to help refs. The system now is not reliable, not fast, and is either infantilising refs or introducing subjective re refereeing. It could be so much better but there’s no Will to improve it
Who doesn‘t celebrate a goal? They’re all celebrated normally, then silence when the crowd realises there’s a check, followed by a secondary cheer or communal muttering of FFS.
VAR tried to go speedy and then the Liverpool debacle happened. It’s not a coincidence that they have slowed down since.
VAR still has human involvement, so there will always be errors or some element of subjectivity that not everyone will agree with.
It does reduce errors though.
Even if VAR was like in rugby, you couldn’t celebrate if you innately can’t celebrate because there might be a check.When I’m at the game I don’t celebrate like I used to and when at home I just wait for the VAR check. I think part of it is the mantra that every goal must be checked. A tool which supported referees would be available to them, like in rugby league, to have something checked they weren’t sure about. Now it’s a forensic reviews of flicks off hands and lines supposedly measuring toenails. If you think it improves the game then that’s your opinion and you are very much entitled to it. To me it has made things worse and, as big Ange said, totally screwed with referees. Which is ironic - as it was sold as a tool to help them
Even if VAR was like in rugby, you couldn’t celebrate if you innately can’t celebrate because there might be a check.
VAR was always going to change how referees referee.
If a goal is scored where the scorer handballs it, it should be disallowed.
If a goal is scored from an offside position, it should be disallowed.
Referees have never had the same respect as they do in other sports. VAR hasn’t changed that.
bang onPOstecoglu :
"You have to accept the referee's decision, that is how I grew up," said Postecoglou.
"This constant erosion of the referee's authority is where the game is going - they are not going to have any authority. We are going to be under the control of someone with a TV screen a few miles away.
"The decision is the decision. In 26 years I have had plenty of bad decisions, I have had plenty fall in my favour. It is what it is.
"There will be a forensic study of every decision out there, I think that is the way the game is going and I don't like it. If you look at all that standing around we did today, maybe people enjoy that sort of thing but I'd rather see us playing football."
Thats where we need to be going imo.
Slightly ironic that he got booked for complaining last night then. ;-)POstecoglu :
"You have to accept the referee's decision, that is how I grew up," said Postecoglou.
"This constant erosion of the referee's authority is where the game is going - they are not going to have any authority. We are going to be under the control of someone with a TV screen a few miles away.
"The decision is the decision. In 26 years I have had plenty of bad decisions, I have had plenty fall in my favour. It is what it is.
"There will be a forensic study of every decision out there, I think that is the way the game is going and I don't like it. If you look at all that standing around we did today, maybe people enjoy that sort of thing but I'd rather see us playing football."
Thats where we need to be going imo.
And they aren't now?You have to accept the referee's decision, that is how I grew up,
"The decision is the decision. In 26 years I have had plenty of bad decisions, I have had plenty fall in my favour. It is what it is.
As I've mentioned previously, if everyone adopted his attitude to decisions, then fine, i would be more than happy to scrap VAR.
But I know for a fact fans will be in utter rage week in week out on refs decisions when a player is clearly offside or clearly dives with no contact etc.
And they aren't now?
An unexpected consequence of var is the rise of diving and feigning injury.
I was genuinely under the impression that VAR would be to help with the once-in-a-blue-moon errors like the wrong Arsenal player being sent off at Stamford Bridge that time or the phantom Stuart Attwell goal given. And the glaring offside errors whereby the linesman has missed a player or something.He’s totally right. Remember when VAR was brought in - the argument seemed to be refs needed tools to help them. This is not where we have ended up
Slightly ironic that he got booked for complaining last night then. ;-)
Only from idiots who are trying to maintain an untenable position that VAR is a positive addition to the game.Am I seriously reading on here that the shite implementation of VAR is making the game more exciting and drawing more people to it? Really?!?
That’s what he said. Whether it‘s true, we probably will never know.Bit pedantic but I think he got booked for persistently leaving the technical area.
Not sure calling people idiots because they have differing opinion to you is great for the discourse on this thread.Only from idiots who are trying to maintain an untenable position that VAR is a positive addition to the game.
The Romero challenge was not the worst challenge you'll ever see. Your acting like it was gbh. I can see why it was missed as it was the follow through that was the issue. Udogie's was the worst and Havertz challenge also worse than Romero. Anthony's assault on Doku was worse. You continue to try to find ways to support a system that is a parody of itself now and is actaully making the game a farce.how about the Romero challenge which the ref missed ? which can't blame him as bodies in way and all at frantic pace.
Should Romero really have just got away with that?
Its idiotic to say appalling officiating and failing technology is good for the game as a spectacle.Not sure calling people idiots because they have differing opinion to you is great for the discourse on this thread.