VAR Discussion Thread | 2024/25

[stonerblue]

It won’t cause any delay, it will be better for the game.

Now where have I heard that bullshit before..

 

[Gordyola]

VAR for corners is long overdue, can’t believe the amount of wrongly given goal kicks given instead of corners. Its a huge error from the officials on a regular basis and rather infuriating (when it’s for your team)

Stats to back this up?
Given that the number of goals scored from corners is as low as averaged about 3% if that is equated with the probably low number of wrongly awarded GKs / corners then this is another over use of VAR because it will lead to over analysis of the decision

 

[Gordyola]

It won’t cause any delay, it will be better for the game.

Ive seen it suggested that the process will only look at if the corner was correctly awarded if a goal was scored

 

[Longdarnit Blue]

I’m sure pre var, refs knew they’d got a corner wrong from the reactions of players and fans and they’d award a dodgy decision for a non-existent foul on the keeper. Not great but better than a 5 minute forensic investigation complete with cartoon graphics. Missing an occasional corner and giving a goal kick is not really a good reason to force feed var on us even more.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Ive seen it suggested that the process will only look at if the corner was correctly awarded if a goal was scored

Not a bad compromise.
Would prefer a ref if unsure just to have an earpiece tell him in seconds who it come off -corners take an age with defenders trotting up from the back anyway. Surely better than a ref taking a wild guess? In my crazy outrageous view of course

 

[BlueHammer85]

I’m sure pre var, refs knew they’d got a corner wrong from the reactions of players and fans and they’d award a dodgy decision for a non-existent foul on the keeper. .

Yep, which is ludicrous.

 

[Longdarnit Blue]

Yep, which is ludicrous.

In my previous post I said “I’m sure pre var, refs knew they’d got a corner wrong from the reactions of players and fans and they’d award a dodgy decision for a non-existent foul on the keeper. Not great but better than a 5 minute forensic investigation complete with cartoon graphics. Missing an occasional corner and giving a goal kick is not really a good reason to force feed var on us even more.”

Do you not accept that there are examples of incorrect VAR decisions in every single category they are involved in, penalties, handball, offside etc etc to date? Therefore it is fairly likely that there would also be mistakes regarding VAR for corners.

My opinion, perhaps poorly worded, is that several minutes of people waiting about to see if a corner was correctly given would be an even more ludicrous intrusion into our beautiful game.

If we follow your VAR obsession to a logical conclusion, why don’t VAR check that the ball is in the quadrant after every corner is taken or that throw ins have been taken from exactly the right place if the following play leads to a goal or a corner etc. There are many other occasions I’m sure where we could ensure that your version of ‘correct decision’ is enforced.

I’m convinced that you really believe what you post and aren’t just a WUM but your version of football is not one that most fans would like to watch (IMO).

 

[BlueHammer85]

In my previous post I said “I’m sure pre var, refs knew they’d got a corner wrong from the reactions of players and fans and they’d award a dodgy decision for a non-existent foul on the keeper. Not great but better than a 5 minute forensic investigation complete with cartoon graphics. Missing an occasional corner and giving a goal kick is not really a good reason to force feed var on us even more.”

Do you not accept that there are examples of incorrect VAR decisions in every single category they are involved in, penalties, handball, offside etc etc to date? Therefore it is fairly likely that there would also be mistakes regarding VAR for corners.

My opinion, perhaps poorly worded, is that several minutes of people waiting about to see if a corner was correctly given would be an even more ludicrous intrusion into our beautiful game.

If we follow your VAR obsession to a logical conclusion, why don’t VAR check that the ball is in the quadrant after every corner is taken or that throw ins have been taken from exactly the right place if the following play leads to a goal or a corner etc. There are many other occasions I’m sure where we could ensure that your version of ‘correct decision’ is enforced.

I’m convinced that you really believe what you post and aren’t just a WUM but your version of football is not one that most fans would like to watch (IMO).

No, anyone that thinks I’m a WUM is because they fail to understand someone might have a different opinion and just want this thread to be one big shouting at the clouds moan fest.
Yes there’s examples of VAR errors in every category but the correct VAR decision far outweighs the odd mistake and my god don’t we hear about it when it happens - the one mistake in loads of VAR checks is so overblown out of proportion that it skews people’s minds to thinking it gets everything wrong all the time.
Now I’m sure if VAR comes in for corners - there will be the very rare odd wrong outcome and a rare delay - that some will no doubt tag me in and get all giddy about - but all the correct verdicts in which we had a ref guessing before will be totally forgotten even when it leads to your side scoring from. Which will happen.

 

[stonerblue]

In my previous post I said “I’m sure pre var, refs knew they’d got a corner wrong from the reactions of players and fans and they’d award a dodgy decision for a non-existent foul on the keeper. Not great but better than a 5 minute forensic investigation complete with cartoon graphics. Missing an occasional corner and giving a goal kick is not really a good reason to force feed var on us even more.”

Do you not accept that there are examples of incorrect VAR decisions in every single category they are involved in, penalties, handball, offside etc etc to date? Therefore it is fairly likely that there would also be mistakes regarding VAR for corners.

My opinion, perhaps poorly worded, is that several minutes of people waiting about to see if a corner was correctly given would be an even more ludicrous intrusion into our beautiful game.

If we follow your VAR obsession to a logical conclusion, why don’t VAR check that the ball is in the quadrant after every corner is taken or that throw ins have been taken from exactly the right place if the following play leads to a goal or a corner etc. There are many other occasions I’m sure where we could ensure that your version of ‘correct decision’ is enforced.

I’m convinced that you really believe what you post and aren’t just a WUM but your version of football is not one that most fans would like to watch (IMO).

He's alright and not a wind up, just steadfast in his beliefs. Fucking frustrating though..

 

[Longdarnit Blue]

If you don’t mind me pointing out to you that you post as if your opinion is correct - an example ‘but the correct VAR decision far outweighs the odd mistake’. This is your opinion and one not shared by many who want to cut out the lengthy delays. Football is a fast moving, exciting game.
I stand by my opinion that most football fans would rather take up crochet rather than go to a game if folks such as yourself ever had their way.

 

[dadnlad]

What's mind blowing is the ref not giving it in real time.

the gvardiol tackel in first half might of put doubt in his mind they wanted red for that

 

[dadnlad]

VAR for corners is long overdue, can’t believe the amount of wrongly given goal kicks given instead of corners. Its a huge error from the officials on a regular basis and rather infuriating (when it’s for your team)

are they going back to off sides before getting to this point ?
how teams gain advantage from off side corner

 

[BlueHammer85]

are they going back to off sides before getting to this point ?
how teams gain advantage from off side

All I want is a ref if unsure who it come off to quickly ask var on the headset rather than blind guessing a corner or not. I have no faith they’ll get everyone completely correct and avoid delays - but I can accept the odd rare one time to time.

 

[TheBeautifulGame]

Ive seen it suggested that the process will only look at if the corner was correctly awarded if a goal was scored

Who has suggested this and which do you think would be a better way to go about it? Allowing a corner to commence without checking only to bring it back if a goal is scored is essentially more of what we're already annoyed with, and the main problem with VAR. The chalking off of goals after they've been scored. if you have the ability to do a quick check before the corner, then presumably you would want to prevent and indecent corner from happening before it is kicked. That sounded like what they had in mind when it was announced. But then again we never quite know what they're up to do we.

The concept behind doing a "quick" automatic check before a corner is taken is a different approach and why I would at least give it a chance, as a better way forward rather than waiting until goals are scored. The only way I would support that would be under a manager's challenge system in which they had a very limited number of challenges per match.

Anotherwords, we have to be clear about what the proposal is before we can take a clear stance on it. So the "this or that" way of doing it here are each quite different and both ways have their share of concerns. Namely that if they're going to do a quick check before each corner, that they would need to also commit to that as well before a goal kick as the decision would be one or the other.