VAR (PL introduction 2019)

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  1. Lancet Fluke

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    And I think you're wrong. I think it wasn't given purely because it would have required the video ref to overturn the ref's decision and they are always going to be more reluctant to do that than to go along with the on field decision. I said on here a few years ago that this would be the case because so often on BT Sport when they had Howard Webb on, he would just agree with the ref even when it was fairly clear the ref had made an error. He would talk all sorts of bollocks to justify why the ref had made the decision he had made and it was clear that when VAR came along this is what would happen. I know you don't agree with me but just watch over the coming months and years and I am certain you will find that apart from offsides which will be more or less black and white decisions, VAR will be an exercise in the video ref desperately trying to not overturn on field decisions and they will only do so when they have no option and that "clear and obvious" bit will give them the option not to overturn way more than it should. Anyway, we aren't going to agree and only the video ref knows why he did what he did but we do both agree that he should have given a pen.
     
  2. Blue Mist

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    Pardon !!!! He clearly kicked him and as you say after the ball had moved away from Jesus. It wasn't a deliberate kick he simply totally mistimed his swing to get the ball, the thing is he mistimed it by 2 minutes. It was a clear foul and therefore a clear penalty.
    Further you say the foul was soft, so you accept it was a foul. it therefore follows that you think it was a penalty as that's what a foul in the box is, no matter how soft.
     
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  3. aguero93:20

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    Actually some are indirect free kicks.
     
  4. bluealf

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    1. Takes more than four steps while controlling the ball with his hands, before releasing it from his possession.
    2. Touches the ball again with his hands after it has been released from his possession without touching another player.
    3. Touches the ball with his hand after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a teammate.
    4. Touches the ball with his hand after he has received it directly from a throw-in by a teammate.

    Not really fouls are they :)

    This is the closest scenario

    If the defender commits an offence of "dangerous play" – raising his boot above his chest without making direct contact with another player. Had the defender made contact, it would have resulted in a penalty kick.

    Saying that how are overhead kicks allowed if that is the case lol
     
  5. andyhinch

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    So are we saying it could have been 10 ? someone should make a song about that :-)
     
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  6. Blue Mist

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    Oh you.
     
  7. dennishasdoneit

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    Well spotted...refs making it up as they go along.
    Mike Dean an experienced big match ref..but school boy error.
    Not one expert pundit or journalist noticed; its almost as though the rules of the game are now flexible and make shift...worrying.
     
  8. squirtyflower

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  9. dennishasdoneit

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    So Mike Dean,top class ref....didnt.
    Or he forgot.
    Or he just altered the rule..cos he could.
    Would like him to be questioned about this; but of course no one can question a ref these days.

    Incidentally,going back to the Jesus pen shout,ignoring if it was a correct call or not,the expression on Deans face as he argued with City players,his face apparently contorted with rage/ hatred ,..is an image which will stay with me for a long time...he looked for all the world like a very angry headmaster telling kids to fuck off,im in charge.. how dare you question me .....Cant stand the man.
     
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  10. Barcon

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    I have often wondered that myself Alf.
     

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