Villa v Maccabi Tel Aviv - away fans banned | MTA confirm they will refuse any allocation for safety reasons (p26)

Semper aggressus said:
Can I ask, as someone far removed (thankfully!) from any of this kind of thing, why so many people are against Israel? It was Hamas that killed hundreds of innocents at a music festival.

If, say the Houthis had sunk a British cruise ship and drowned 1,000 innocent Brits on holiday, wouldn’t most of us want the Navy to wipe them out?

What’s the difference?
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Yes, because this issue only began at the music festival…….
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
So the “war” started 2 years ago?
It’s like the British army dropping bombs on Dublin after the Manchester bombing in 1996 and asking “why have the IRA started this war?”
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They had an offer on the table from day one to surrender and disarm. They didn’t do it. By the way, even now,after a deal was signed and they promised to disarm, they are not keeping the agreement and refuse to surrender. They are a terrorist organization, for God’s sake why do I even have to explain myself. A terrorist organization! They murdered thousands. They stole billions from their own people to build thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and ammunition. They built bases inside hospitals, schools, and residential buildings. Do you think we want to be at war for two years with our soldiers and civilians being killed every day? If Israel were committing genocide, would it have lasted two years? We could have wiped them out in a minute. Would we be sending them thousands of trucks of food and supplies every day? Provide them water and electricity?Would we be asking them to leave certain areas before we strike so they can protect themselves? This war has lasted two years because it’s a Nazi terrorist organization that doesn’t care about its people; you just believe whatever they tell you and don’t look at the facts. Would you be willing to keep living next to a terrorist group sitting on the outskirts of Manchester that has made it its goal to destroy you? Wouldn’t you wipe them off the face of the earth if they broke into Manchester and murdered 1,200 innocent civilians? We have nothing against the Palestinians,we are not willing to live alongside Hamas, which wants to kill us all. They are not willing to surrender; if you have another solution, please propose it. We would welcome an end to this war.
 
MCFC ISRAEL said:
They had an offer on the table from day one to surrender and disarm. They didn’t do it. By the way, even now,after a deal was signed and they promised to disarm, they are not keeping the agreement and refuse to surrender. They are a terrorist organization, for God’s sake why do I even have to explain myself. A terrorist organization! They murdered thousands. They stole billions from their own people to build thousands of kilometers of tunnels, rockets, and ammunition. They built bases inside hospitals, schools, and residential buildings. Do you think we want to be at war for two years with our soldiers and civilians being killed every day? If Israel were committing genocide, would it have lasted two years? We could have wiped them out in a minute. Would we be sending them thousands of trucks of food and supplies every day? Provide them water and electricity?Would we be asking them to leave certain areas before we strike so they can protect themselves? This war has lasted two years because it’s a Nazi terrorist organization that doesn’t care about its people; you just believe whatever they tell you and don’t look at the facts. Would you be willing to keep living next to a terrorist group sitting on the outskirts of Manchester that has made it its goal to destroy you? Wouldn’t you wipe them off the face of the earth if they broke into Manchester and murdered 1,200 innocent civilians? We have nothing against the Palestinians,we are not willing to live alongside Hamas, which wants to kill us all. They are not willing to surrender; if you have another solution, please propose it. We would welcome an end to this war.
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Its never your fault is it?

I suppose this lads ticket was promised 3,000 years ago too?

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