We Play Better When We Go 1-0 Down

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Why?

Why start the second half like we did, why just not start the game like that?

questions, question, questions, same old questions over and over again we just have to ask!

But why?

shall we conceed to wake us up? just don't get it.

If we started like we finished would of been a cricket score today.
 
We played shit for 20 minutes after we went 1-0 down, RSC coming on changed it a bit, then Kenwyne Jones going off changed it even more. We got a presence up front, and they lost theirs, so we could actually build a bit of pressure and they struggled to keep the ball.
 
We start with a negative holding attitude. We hope to hold the game and the opponents and break at them. Trouble is other teams come out of the blocks at 100 mph as if it really really matters and make us look like we don't want it. Chances are they score a goal during this period and we have no alternative but to get better or get battered.

It takes us a while to get properly into the game and wake up to this. Against Chelsea we got a very quick fortunate equaliser and went on to play great. Against Sunderland we could have scored 5 but didn't and squeezed a draw in injury time.

Will we start with the same mindset against Fulham? Sadly I think we will.It might work against them.We might hold out and catch them on the break and win.

But it might not work and they might score before we wake up and we might lose. I just hope Mancini has realised where our real strengths are and try to play to them a little earlier than when we are 1 down.
 
We satrted with Tevez, SWP and Bellamy away from home.

That's hardly a holding formation. OK we had 3 defensive midfielders, but other than ireland that's all we have - unless you think Vieira is ready to turn back the clock

For me we gave the ball away cheaply, and failed to win the 50 50s in midfield (which our defensive midfield should have been good at) so it was down to poor individual play rather than a defensive approach

There's a lot of City fans who have got this mancini is a negative coach mantra, but I am not sure it's true. If he gets time, I think you'll see that change. Rafa Benitez, and Roy Hodgson are defensive coaches, or perhaps more accurately employ extremely negative tactics away from home with their teams. I think we're over-egging the negative tactics at bit. Anyway Goodnight. Could have been a lot worse!
 
The reason that we got better as we went on had very little to do with us. Sunderland pressed us very well in the first half and expended a huge amount of energy doing so. As the game went on, they slowed down a notch which allowed us more time on the ball and more time to pick out a pass instead of generic hoofing. In addition to this, the swap that brought on Johnson put on a player who was full of life as Ferdinand was getting knackered from his physical battle with SWP today. Viera brought us a penetrating ball through the middle so that Bellamy could use his pace better and link with Tevez. Most importantly, RSC turned the hooved balls from Given (that previously went missing) into a good way to win possession further up the field. He brought everybody around him into the game due to his aerial strength

Don't make the mistake of using the one line clichés that those Sky folks do, you're all far better than that.

The other games all had their own things, there is no trends in losely related correlaiton.
 
Marvin said:
We satrted with Tevez, SWP and Bellamy away from home.

That's hardly a holding formation. OK we had 3 defensive midfielders, but other than ireland that's all we have - unless you think Vieira is ready to turn back the clock

For me we gave the ball away cheaply, and failed to win the 50 50s in midfield (which our defensive midfield should have been good at) so it was down to poor individual play rather than a defensive approach

There's a lot of City fans who have got this mancini is a negative coach mantra, but I am not sure it's true. If he gets time, I think you'll see that change. Rafa Benitez, and Roy Hodgson are defensive coaches, or perhaps more accurately employ extremely negative tactics away from home with their teams. I think we're over-egging the negative tactics at bit. Anyway Goodnight. Could have been a lot worse!
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What I said was "We start with a negative holding attitude." not a holding formation.

It's not just about the players out there it's about what they are asked to do and that's where I believe they start with a negative holding attitude because that's the way I feel the manager sets them to play from the start.

If he plays those 3 in the middle fine but give Barry licence to link much further forward and similarly the full backs. As for actual personnel you mentioned Ireland but conveniently forgot RSC who helped change the game in our favour by being the extra forward we needed. ( yes I know he wasn't close to perfect but he had an impact)

I do agree some of the individual play was very poor but much of it was because we were lacking options looking forward and were allowing them to press us backwards.
 
as much as RSC is being attacked, he did his job for much of the game: he came on to win balls up front and he did that. true, his finishing was dire, and he was pretty weak on the ground, but he definitely changed the game. A good sub by mancini
 
The thing is, it's not just under Mancini we do this, we did it under hughes to, i can understand teams attacking us from the off which means we have to be careful about bombing on and leaving too much space,

i'd rather us go 1-0 down with us pushing on and attacking and get caught on the break, than go 1-0 by sitting back and not posing any threat,

just don't get it, i'd rather see us go 1-0 down and actually go for it for a change.

push on and try to take hold of the game, don't see it enough, basically we just get bullied all the time.
 
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