What has to happen for us to be awarded a penalty?

I'm going to ask a simple question and want everybody, including those that think the world is nice, fair and referees have a difficult job and would never dream of giving us the end of a shitty stick and we're all just paranoid, to answer it honestly. Imagine if the rags (or the scousers/arse for that matter) would have had the exact same appeals, against the same sides, at the same time of the match and with the same refs in the same spot, in other words exactly the same scenarios. Are you honestly telling me that they get the exact same 4 calls on the bounce of 'no penalty' and a fucking booking thrown in for good measure? Not a fucking chance that happens. Not a fucking chance. I'm not saying that all four would have been given, but there's not a fucking chance that 'they' don't get at least one. That's the fucking refereeing bias right there.
 
The more we have these appeals turned down the more other refs presume we are diving especially after that crap spouted by Webb.
Very worrying.
 
hertsblue said:
We are by far too mild manoured. Fuck the holloistic approach, it does not work.
We dont make a fuss when wronged and this makes the officials job easy. In return we get screwed on a weekly basis as the officials bottle decisions knowing we wont complain so it gives them as easy opt out. Mistakes happen but its happening too much, too often for it to be simple errors. Something is wrong and it stinks. Perhaps the FBI can take a look at the FA and Riley once they are done with Fifa.
The absolute shit refs are killing the PL for me. I rarely watch any games anymore and cancelled sky last year. Too many games are decided by refs decisions and its becoming as scripted as WWE
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Sums it up perfectly. We show we arent really that bothered when we get mugged off by rancid decisions, so the officials just take the path of least resistance. Bottom line is the ref knew Everton would have gone ape conceding a penalty so late, notwithstanding that the decision would have been 100% correct, and that we would just gripe a little if he didnt give it. When we start to show a bit of passion it might change.
 
hertsblue said:
We are by far too mild manoured. Fuck the holloistic approach, it does not work.
We dont make a fuss when wronged and this makes the officials job easy. In return we get screwed on a weekly basis as the officials bottle decisions knowing we wont complain so it gives them as easy opt out. Mistakes happen but its happening too much, too often for it to be simple errors. Something is wrong and it stinks. Perhaps the FBI can take a look at the FA and Riley once they are done with Fifa.
The absolute shit refs are killing the PL for me. I rarely watch any games anymore and cancelled sky last year. Too many games are decided by refs decisions and its becoming as scripted as WWE
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I agree about us being too mild mannered but I guess this is mainly applicable from a management perspective. There are certain scenarios - handball/penalty/free kick appeals etc where players can get involved, but other than this there is very little anyone can do to influence a live game. As a player, you can disagree with a decision all you like, even until the point where you get a yellow (or second yellow) card. It changes nothing. A decision is never reversed because of a team's intervention. Sure, players should shout and appeal for every free kick, penalty, handball etc., but for players to make a fuss when they feel they have been wronged is ultimately futile as the horse has already bolted. Issues like this can only really be resolved by the appointed executives.
 
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Still fucking fuming at that. Could end up costing us the title.

To not call something as blatant as that has to raise suspicions about bent refereeing rather than incompetence.

Didn't give that foul against Aguero on the edge of the penalty area either.

Complete and utter ****.
 
I caught the last bit of SSN as i was about to start work. Charlie Nicholas(sp?) said the referee was the man of the match.
 
steviemc said:
I agree about us being too mild mannered but I guess this is mainly applicable from a management perspective. There are certain scenarios - handball/penalty/free kick appeals etc where players can get involved, but other than this there is very little anyone can do to influence a live game. As a player, you can disagree with a decision all you like, even until the point where you get a yellow (or second yellow) card. It changes nothing. A decision is never reversed because of a team's intervention. Sure, players should shout and appeal for every free kick, penalty, handball etc., but for players to make a fuss when they feel they have been wronged is ultimately futile as the horse has already bolted. Issues like this can only really be resolved by the appointed executives.
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But it does affect future decisions in the same game. For example, if a referee gives a dodgy penalty, there's a massively increased chance that they'll give the other team a penalty in the next 15 minutes. Teams that make a fuss get decisions going their way. Why do you think certain successful managers always have their players surrounding the ref?
 
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