Ok, we got Arnie from Rotherham , we were tempted to take his brother too as he was identical brown but took just him in the end , don’t see many brown ones . Great dog the patterdales, i had a staffie as well when we got him , the fun they had together while Neville (staffie) was here .My mate had 2 litters of 'em. Fella called John who lives in Outwood, Radcliffe. Most were black but 2 from each litter came out brown, and big.