What's the difference between Mancini and Ferguson?

[Sabster]

Slur Alex has the ability to mould a team out of (sometimes) average players. He demands and gets respect from the players, they believe in him and he believes in them. And most of all he's capable of instilling an enormous will to win in his players, they never give up and rarely look beaten when behind in a game the only other manager that can instill that will to win is Mourinho IMO

The question is though - did Ferguson command this respect before he was successful?

If the answer is no then with success Mancini can develop into a Ferguson.

 

[me myself and i]

Grit!!

 

[ManCityJordan]

One is from a nice hot country with alot of history that makes great monuments, food, cars and clothes, the other is from a cold shit hole where they wear kilts and play bag pipes.

Oh and one of them attacks in big games and other defends.

 

[ForeverCity]

winning mentality

 

[el blue]

No matter what anyone says, the rags were a sleeping giant when Bacon face joined them. The fuel for the fire was there, but they just needed someone to light it. What Taggart did was nothing short of a revolution. He binned some of their biggest stars..Whiteside, McGrath, Strachan, Olson, Moran....and replaced them with nobodies like Bruce, Pallister, Ince. He banned the press from the training ground which put a stop on all the paper talk...he basically made the rags into a close knit scottish tenement family. And it worked.

I think it is no freak that all those players who became better footballers under him, also became managers themselves, he made them stronger human beings. And another thing I have noticed recently, other premiership managers ringing him up for help and advise. You'd expect him to tell them to fook off, but he doesn't.


What are you talking about!!!

Pallister was a record signing at the time... Ince was an international player and also cost near-enough a record fee.

Oh, and stop pretending to be a City fan.
When he retires, it'll be an absolute disaster to Man Utd.

Thats a bit harsh soulboy - Ince was years off being a full international when he joined the scum.

 

[Blue Mooner]

Red nose had 5 seasons to turn united into a decent team, Mancini has 1/2 seasons and a hell of a lot more money.

Nonsense, Fergie was signing the likes of Pallister for £2.3million (at the time the most expensive English central defender, Steve Bruce for nearly £1million and Neil Webb for £1.5million - he was spending money alright and it took Fergie FIVE years for the first piece of silverware.

In his third season he took them from 2nd to mid table. Undoubtedly had this message board (for the rags) been in existence the clamour for him to be sacked would have been palpable

The difference is that he now has full control and the security of his knowing his position is rock solid - that means that players know there will only be one winner at the rags and that is Fergie because his position is rock solid.

Fortunately for the powers that be at OT they had the foresight to recognise they had a good man and to give him the TIME to shape the club and make a massive cultural shift which is what is needed at our club.

The likes of Milner (who's not playing regularly) will play to the gallery to feed any anti-Mancini sentiment and that all serves to undermine the power the manager can wield.

Sadly our fans are not willing to afford any of our managers the time that is needed.

The three most successful clubs in recent years Liverpoo; (in their heyday), the rags and Arsenal have all had one thing and that is stability in management. We need to learn lessons from history.

 

[Bill]

One has the grasp of what's required not only in European competition but more importantly, what's required in English football and is an outstanding man manager.

the other just doesn't even come close....

correct, in fairness to bob though nobody comes close to fergie. the cheating and bias that he gets away with do help but no one can say he isn't the best around.

on a side note i had 2 united fans in today who want him gone.

 

[Balti]

is it that fergiescum is an obnoxious old alky rag tramp wanker?

 

[jimharri]

Ferguson has the ability to motivate players, with the result that his players will run through brick walls for him. Can the same be said for Mancini? Hmm.

 

[Gelsons Dad]

Red nose had 5 seasons to turn united into a decent team, Mancini has 1/2 seasons and a hell of a lot more money.

Nonsense, Fergie was signing the likes of Pallister for £2.3million (at the time the most expensive English central defender, Steve Bruce for nearly £1million and Neil Webb for £1.5million - he was spending money alright and it took Fergie FIVE years for the first piece of silverware.

In his third season he took them from 2nd to mid table. Undoubtedly had this message board (for the rags) been in existence the clamour for him to be sacked would have been palpable

The difference is that he now has full control and the security of his knowing his position is rock solid - that means that players know there will only be one winner at the rags and that is Fergie because his position is rock solid.

Fortunately for the powers that be at OT they had the foresight to recognise they had a good man and to give him the TIME to shape the club and make a massive cultural shift which is what is needed at our club.

The likes of Milner (who's not playing regularly) will play to the gallery to feed any anti-Mancini sentiment and that all serves to undermine the power the manager can wield.

Sadly our fans are not willing to afford any of our managers the time that is needed.

The three most successful clubs in recent years Liverpoo; (in their heyday), the rags and Arsenal have all had one thing and that is stability in management. We need to learn lessons from history.

Great summary.