So is Monaco. Small amounts are meaningless
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Who should be the next leader of the Tory party?
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It’s virtually impossible to tax wealth.I'd be happy to be taxed on all my income and all my wealth at the same rate as EVERYBODY who lives in the UK. I m sure that me and say the Duke of Westminster and the Hinduja brothers can stomach say 5% on that? Probably sort a lot of things out
You would need to revalue every single asset each year.
It would be very easy to hide undeclared wealth.
Land with planning permission is worth 40 x more than land without
Value of shares in a private company needs an expertly do it.
Some taxpayers tax returns would run to over 200 pages.
Just not a real world solution.
I wondered when race would be raised.Not really, that was only part of it - the deportations have not really gotten off the ground to keep the racists happy.
Easy cop out.
That’s Economics for you if you care to study the subject.That is the whole point of Conservatism.
The more that one person has, the less there is for everyone else.
A shift in the mindset of some potentially influential people is what is required, but I don't see that occurring anytime soon.
Inflation does not make the national cake any bigger, it requires productivity and growrh.
Human nature means the vast majority want to hold on to what they have got with charitable donations based on conscience in the real world.
If your life shit your life’s shit.The bloke doesn’t have a single salient argument.
He’s the epitome of a Conservative voter. Life’s shit, but they’re too scared of making any form of change, so let’s conserve what we have.
That’s the real world, you may not like it but your not going to change it by just saying what life should be like.
Change comes from within.
So your right and the majority of the Electorate were wrongMost voted for change in 2016.
They believed if we moved away from the EU that we’d be better off.
Sadly, the people who promised that were charlatans.
They're now worse off as the country has less money to dish out.
It’s all ok though as voters like @halfmist are more than happy to keep voting in politicians that keep his money safe.
Sounds a trifle arrogant.
Intelligent input.Have another sympathy tick from me, Halfwit.
Your like a child in the playground who cannot argue his point so reverts to insults. So predictable comrade.
Rascal
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It appears from reading this thread that our friend @halfmist thinks this forum is left wing. That has been an aged old argument on here since its inception.
Well then lets think about it, Manchester, the city where our magnificent club play beautiful football is virtually a Tory free zone, it is the home of the Trade Union movement, the city where Karl Marx and Fredrich Engels discussed political philosophy, the home of the co-operative movement, Peterloo, has a statue of Abraham Lincoln. Manchester has always been a radical city unlike our Scouse neighbours whose city was historically Tory.
Therefore one would expect that this forum is left wing leaning even taking into account the fact our clubs fanbase had a dalliance with the far right back in the NF days. Is it left wing now, probably not in the Socialist sense, but it is I believe on the Liberal Left, often attributed to metropolitism. It is certainly not as left wing as it was because a number of prominent Socialist posters left after a protracted dispute over Palestine/Israel. The left you see is intellectually vibrant and it likes to argue minutiae, hence the historical splits on the far left over the ideological positions of Lenin and Trotsky and the modern day splits between us on the left here now over Corbyn and Starmer.
What has happened though is Brexit and its the Supernova that exploded and its created a Black hole that sucks every political discussion into it. Getting back on to the point of the thread, yes the poll I created was slightly tongue in cheek, but interestingly it has shown that Defence fella is the leading light for the Tories on here, whilst those on the left obviously prefer Larry the cat to any Tory, but what is without doubt in mind is that the next Tory leader will have to fully in support of Brexit for them to succeed with the Tory membership.
Well then lets think about it, Manchester, the city where our magnificent club play beautiful football is virtually a Tory free zone, it is the home of the Trade Union movement, the city where Karl Marx and Fredrich Engels discussed political philosophy, the home of the co-operative movement, Peterloo, has a statue of Abraham Lincoln. Manchester has always been a radical city unlike our Scouse neighbours whose city was historically Tory.
Therefore one would expect that this forum is left wing leaning even taking into account the fact our clubs fanbase had a dalliance with the far right back in the NF days. Is it left wing now, probably not in the Socialist sense, but it is I believe on the Liberal Left, often attributed to metropolitism. It is certainly not as left wing as it was because a number of prominent Socialist posters left after a protracted dispute over Palestine/Israel. The left you see is intellectually vibrant and it likes to argue minutiae, hence the historical splits on the far left over the ideological positions of Lenin and Trotsky and the modern day splits between us on the left here now over Corbyn and Starmer.
What has happened though is Brexit and its the Supernova that exploded and its created a Black hole that sucks every political discussion into it. Getting back on to the point of the thread, yes the poll I created was slightly tongue in cheek, but interestingly it has shown that Defence fella is the leading light for the Tories on here, whilst those on the left obviously prefer Larry the cat to any Tory, but what is without doubt in mind is that the next Tory leader will have to fully in support of Brexit for them to succeed with the Tory membership.
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Great comeback.So is Monaco. Small amounts are meaningless
Comparing a region with a combined GDP similar to the UK with a tiny principality.
I take it geography’s not your thing along with economics.
Prestwich_Blue
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With Cameron and May, I always got the impression they both felt they ought to be PM, without any other defining ideology. But nor did I feel they were in it for naked self interest, as Johnson clearly has been.
It'd be nice to have someone who actually seemed to have a strong set of beliefs and a coherent vision for the country, not someone who panders to the more extreme elements, or who wants to take out far more than they put in.
It'd be nice to have someone who actually seemed to have a strong set of beliefs and a coherent vision for the country, not someone who panders to the more extreme elements, or who wants to take out far more than they put in.