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I'd like to see Mount and Sancho included. They both look like they have the ability to be elite players even though they are just 18 and 19.
Also, tell me about these pass-masters I'm forgetting that will keep the ball better than Shelvey and Henderson? Loftus Cheek??? don't make me laugh.A Henderson Shelvey midfield sounds pretty terrifying. If we're going to go for the all out giving up possession, just playing on the counter then I don't see much point in Kane and you'd want more solid players shielding your defence as they are going to be under a lot of pressure. Also, I'd rather play with 10 men than have Gary Cahill on the pitch, the guy is an absolute liability these days
It's not about pass masters, it's that those two will never get the ball off anyone. if you play a midfield 2 then you're already pretty much conceding the midfield battle, but if one of them is Jonjo Shelvey then you definitely ate as his defending is almost non-existent. He has a great long range pass on him, but his pass and move isn't exactly Xavi-esque.Also, tell me about these pass-masters I'm forgetting that will keep the ball better than Shelvey and Henderson? Loftus Cheek??? don't make me laugh.
Henderson would never win the ball off anyone?? Kane can't keep up with a counter attack?It's not about pass masters, it's that those two will never get the ball off anyone. if you play a midfield 2 then you're already pretty much conceding the midfield battle, but if one of them is Jonjo Shelvey then you definitely ate as his defending is almost non-existent. He has a great long range pass on him, but his pass and move isn't exactly Xavi-esque.
As for why Kane is pointless in a counter attacking team, because he wouldn't have the ball very much. If I'm playing on the break I'm hitting it to Vardy, or Sterling and Kane isn't going to keep up. If I'm going full counter attack then I'm going Rashford, Vardy, Sterling and just trying to break at speeds that don't let the opposition get numbers back to defend. I don't think we really have the creativity to break teams down if they have numbers back, but Shelvey is as good as anyone at an accurate long punt for the pacemen to chase.
If we're playing like that then it would probably be more of a back 5, as you can't really get your wingbacks up if you can't keep hold of the ball, plus it would help us flood the middle a bit to have the 3 centerbacks be able to stay narrow.
I don't know, I don't really think we've got the personnel in midfield to really make any system work particularly well
This is the real crux of the problem. If you compare our talent pool to Brazil's, or Germany's, or Spain's, France's, Portugal's, Belgium's or even Uruguay's. We really have 0 chance.I don't know, I don't really think we've got the personnel in midfield to really make any system work particularly well
Bold choice picking an Ivory Coast international.Butland
Walker, Maguire, Stones, Delph
Alli, Henderson, Lingard (I despise him but he’s a good player)
Sterling, Kane, Zaha
Bold choice picking an Ivory Coast international.
I agree with this but I don't know if he wants to play for England... If so then he makes my squad ahead of Sessegnon.Pope Butland Pickford
Stones Jones Dier Maguire Walker Trippier Alexander-Arnold Young Bertrand
Henderson Delph Loftus-Cheek Sessegnon Sterling Lingard Alli Bailey
Kane Rashford Vardy
Pope
Walker
Stones
Jones
Young
Henderson
Dier
Alli
Sterling
Bailey
Kane
If we don't call Bailey up we would be idiots and face losing him like we did Zaha who would walk into the first 11.