Why are so many English teams so bad with the wealth they have?

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Every single team in the top 15 or so in the Premier League should be able to match Napoli.



Why is the money wasted so bad? The Championship should be way stronger than the Dutch league too for example.
 
Every single team in the top 15 or so in the Premier League should be able to match Napoli.



Why is the money wasted so bad? The Championship should be way stronger than the Dutch league too for example.
Short-term thinking, get-rich-quick opportunist chancers totally lacking in business acumen, strategic vision and execution capability.
 
Every single team in the top 15 or so in the Premier League should be able to match Napoli.



Why is the money wasted so bad? The Championship should be way stronger than the Dutch league too for example.
I'd expect the PL to gradually get more dominant in Europe, given the money gap is growing. However, it's still relatively recent that so many were so rich.

Still, if we accept that teams aren't as good, there's probably a variety of reasons, for example...

Premiums for wages/transfer fees will mean the PL can attract plenty of good players, but it's likely that you only get a slightly better quality of player for a lot more money. Players from England are still the most used in this country, and I imagine that a typical Italian playing in Serie A is getting a lot less than a typical English player in the PL.

It's also likely that the 'big' clubs in other leagues can still attract players on lower wages because they can offer CL football.

I'd imagine that being one of the best teams in your league means that you're playing a style which wins games, and you're full of confidence. If you're Notts Forest, you might have more money than most Italian teams, but you're going into most games as the underdog each week, getting beaten regularly, and will be low on confidence. If you're used to playing defensive football and grinding out results, then playing a confident, attacking team, who have lots of experience in European competition is likely to be difficult, even if you have a more expensive squad.

Still, we also don't know what would happen to a Napoli or AC Milan if they were dropped in the PL, as they might find it much more of grind. Even in European competition they'd be playing teams of mostly a lower standard until the knockout of the CL. Last season Inter made it to the CL final by beating Porto, Benfica and Milan in the knockout stages.
 
I'd expect the PL to gradually get more dominant in Europe, given the money gap is growing. However, it's still relatively recent that so many were so rich.

Still, if we accept that teams aren't as good, there's probably a variety of reasons, for example...

Premiums for wages/transfer fees will mean the PL can attract plenty of good players, but it's likely that you only get a slightly better quality of player for a lot more money. Players from England are still the most used in this country, and I imagine that a typical Italian playing in Serie A is getting a lot less than a typical English player in the PL.

It's also likely that the 'big' clubs in other leagues can still attract players on lower wages because they can offer CL football.

I'd imagine that being one of the best teams in your league means that you're playing a style which wins games, and you're full of confidence. If you're Notts Forest, you might have more money than most Italian teams, but you're going into most games as the underdog each week, getting beaten regularly, and will be low on confidence. If you're used to playing defensive football and grinding out results, then playing a confident, attacking team, who have lots of experience in European competition is likely to be difficult, even if you have a more expensive squad.

Still, we also don't know what would happen to a Napoli or AC Milan if they were dropped in the PL, as they might find it much more of grind. Even in European competition they'd be playing teams of mostly a lower standard until the knockout of the CL. Last season Inter made it to the CL final by beating Porto, Benfica and Milan in the knockout stages.
I agree that in general the English players are overpaid, I will argue however that England football is currently going through a golden period and producing more talent than most neighbouring countries (France aside).
 
I agree that in general the English players are overpaid, I will argue however that England football is currently going through a golden period and producing more talent than most neighbouring countries (France aside).
Maybe, but I also bet that pretty average English PL players at Bournemouth or Everton are getting paid more than some of the best Italians in Serie A.
 
Cause City are so well run on and off the park the others no matter what they have or spend cant match City.
 
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Shocking owners with huge ego's and too much emotion involved.

Football is a very emotive sport and business, it's not healthy for a good business model.

Our ownership has no emotional attachment to our club have outstanding business minds running the shop and have people with outstanding football knowledge where needed. We don't at least so far make emotional decisions.
 
I’m not sure that English teams are worse than those of other countries.
Both the rags and Wham have won euro trophies recently and Wham were almost struggling against relegation.
The European champions, some small club in the north, play outstanding football to compete with anyone in the world. More English clubs have won the European cup/ champions league than those of any other country. Two recent finals were all English affairs.
After his first season here, Pep said the PL was the hardest league to win which he did not believe before he came. At all levels teams play out from the back and play a passing game.
Those who say money is not everything are correct, any failing is to be found elsewhere in the mix.
High levels of skill are on display in the PL, week in week out.
We’re spoilt.
 
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