Why has this season been difficult?

[BillyShears]

It's Pellegrini - "THe Master Demotivor."

Reminds me of the cheeky wag who monikered Txiki as "The Great Underminer" or something like that after he yarded Mancini.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

I respect your opinion.

But at the same time I couldn't disagree more.

All of our players are - FUCKING WORLD CLASS!

We're not performing well, because, we're mailing it in. We aren't motivated. We're simply showing up for a job.

Whose fault is that?

It's Pellegrini - "THe Master Demotivor."

Kolorov, otamendi, mangala, demichelis, delph, Fernando, sterling, kelechi, bony, clichy, sagna and zabaleta are not world class. Silva, kompany, de bruyne and Sergio are and all 4 have been fucked with injury. Hart is arguably world class and the only one who has been fit for the majority of season.

The gap between us and Europe's elite is pretty wide when it comes to the "filler" in our squad

 

[Terra Passenger]

So you are suggesting that he isn't just not providing the necessary motivation he is actually, by some means or other, actively demotivating the players?

I'm glad you asked this - good point for discussion; agree or disagree with me as you will.

Here's what I've noticed:

Kun on a hat trick - absolutely killing it - whistle blows... Boni comes on. A dejected look appears on Kun's face as he slowly walks off the field.

Silva, back from injury, finally having a tremendous game - passes are spot on, he's assisting at will - having one of the best games of his life.

Again the whistle blows - on comes Fernando as Silva shakes his head in disbelief and slowly comes off the pitch.
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Nowadays, I see all of the City players playing without passion... walking around, no energy, listless.
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Yes you need to rest your best once you've won - but you need to convince them that doing so is right, once you pull them off.

Pellers is clueless in this department.

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Why is this so.

It's lack of motivation from the manager.

Moreover - it's demotivation.

This is why Pellers - for me - is The Master Demotivator.
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There's no chance that his would hapen under Pep.. or Mourinho, or SAF (er, Bacon-face), or, ... well, and decent manager.

 

[Manc in London]

Mangala and Otamendi, despite the price tags, have often performed poorly when not partnering Vinny.

The sharp decline in Yaya's athleticism and pace.

Injuries to key players. On the last count, we have had 11 first team squad players each unavailable for around 3 months or more. We rarely seem to be able to rotate and it has been clear throughout the season that some players have been playing when they are clearly not fit.

MP often not seeming to know which players in which formation works.

Going deep in to the CoC and having CL commitments.

I genuinely think that sometimes, a number of players don't appear to know what they are doing. Bony at Norwich being a recent example.

Delph being injured so often has presented us from rotating the engine room and providing a different option in midfield.

In most instances, I do think that the way in which a team plays is only effective for a short period of time. The team needs freshening up. We have tried to do this in the fours years or so but a number of signings have not worked out. We have come to the point when we need some fresh blood and some new impetus.

Wastefulness in front of goal. If I had the energy, I would look for the stats to back up my argument. I may be wrong but it appears that we often need multiple chances to score. Seemingly moreso than other teams.

We have some first teamers who have been little use around the box - Navas, Clichy, Sagna and Kolarov.

 

[Bayblue]

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It's lack of motivation from the manager.

Moreover - it's demotivation.

This is why Pellers - for me - is The Master Demotivator.
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There's no chance that his would hapen under Pep.. or Mourinho, or SAF (er, Bacon-face), or, ... well, and decent manager.

Just made a fool of yourself there; did you really mean to say there is "no chance" of Mourinho demotivating his players?

Just about the most far fetched claim I've read, and there have been plenty in these anti-Pellegrini days.

 

[Terra Passenger]

Kolorov, otamendi, mangala, demichelis, delph, Fernando, sterling, kelechi, bony, clichy, sagna and zabaleta are not world class. Silva, kompany, de bruyne and Sergio are and all 4 have been fucked with injury. Hart is arguably world class and the only one who has been fit for the majority of season.

The gap between us and Europe's elite is pretty wide when it comes to the "filler" in our squad

Yup - you've got me there - maybe I'm too enthusiastic about our squad.

Nonetheless I think you'll agree that, on paper at least, we're far better than:

Leicester
Spurs
United
ManU

and better by a bit than

Arsenal (but they always finish 3rd)

and a slightly bit better than

Chelsea (but they've self-destructed)

There's no way - in spite of injuries - that we should be struggling for a top 4 finish.

We should be top 2 at least and favorites to win the league.

 

[Metalartin]

Kolorov, otamendi, mangala, demichelis, delph, Fernando, sterling, kelechi, bony, clichy, sagna and zabaleta are not world class. Silva, kompany, de bruyne and Sergio are and all 4 have been fucked with injury. Hart is arguably world class and the only one who has been fit for the majority of season.

The gap between us and Europe's elite is pretty wide when it comes to the "filler" in our squad

Hart is world class there's nothing to argue about it... You can add Fernandinho to that list... Zaba might not have been this season but that would be a little unfair after he's been the best right back in the league for so long to say he's not after one off season due to injuries(I know he's getting older but he's not "that" old). Sterling and Otamendi will be considered world class very soon if they aren't already... also a question for some would be did Ozil stop being world class in his first season at Arsenal? Hint answer is no, Otamendi was one of the best Central Defenders in La Liga(rated world class in spain and in his own country but we know better...), Sterling remains the most promising young English attacking midfielders on offer.

I know the dippers can be annoying and bloody deluded when it comes to rating their own players but I'd rather have us do that than some of the shit our fans come out with which would have nothing but a negative impact if a player heard it, there's constructive criticism and there's just plain writing a player off at the drop of a hat. I just hope any players low on confidence have the sense to ignore most of it, we're certainly not a confidence inspiring lot on the whole these days(getting like real madrid fans), whoever comes in will have to be self assured from now on(including Pep I can see it happening... so called blues regurgitating rag/dipper soundbites all over again) because it's a pattern that keeps repeating... "but but I pay for a ticket/shirt so I don't have to support/believe in our players" *smh*

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Hart is world class there's nothing to argue about it... You can add Fernandinho to that list... Zaba might not have been this season but that would be a little unfair after he's been the best right back in the league for so long to say he's not after one off season due to injuries(I know he's getting older but he's not "that" old). Sterling and Otamendi will be considered world class very soon if they aren't already... also a question for some would be did Ozil stop being world class in his first season at Arsenal? Hint answer is no, Otamendi was one of the best Central Defenders in La Liga(rated world class in spain and in his own country but we know better...), Sterling remains the most promising young English attacking midfielders on offer.

I know the dippers can be annoying and bloody deluded when it comes to rating their own players but I'd rather have us do that than some of the shit our fans come out with which would have nothing but a negative impact if a player heard it, there's constructive criticism and there's just plain writing a player off at the drop of a hat. I just hope any players low on confidence have the sense to ignore most of it, we're certainly not a confidence inspiring lot on the whole these days(getting like real madrid fans), whoever comes in will have to be self assured from now on(including Pep I can see it happening... so called blues regurgitating rag/dipper soundbites all over again) because it's a pattern that keeps repeating... "but but I pay for a ticket/shirt so I don't have to support/believe in our players" *smh*

If I don't rate a player it is because I don't rate him based on my eyes, what I see happening over the course of a game, season, career, I don't read newspapers, I don't listen much to pundits.

Not rating someone doesn't equate to a lack of support of City. Surely a football forum is the place to discuss that.

Also, since football began players have been criticised by their own fans, this isn't a new phenomenon. What's new is pussy players using it as an excuse to phone it in. If the fans think you're shit, do something about it. Put in extra shifts on crossing or finishing or your weaker foot.

These fucking excuses for professionals only get my support because they are privileged and lucky enough to play for City. Do you think the majority of them give half a fuck?

 

[Terra Passenger]

Just made a fool of yourself there; did you really mean to say there is "no chance" of Mourinho demotivating his players?.

LOL - good point.

In his first two seasons at a club Mourinho is the best manager in the world bar none; but at Inter, then worse at Madrid and even worse still at Chelsea... by season 3 Mourinho is toxic.

So yeah... in his third hypothetical season at City, Mourinho would be even worse... hard to believe.. than TMD.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Yup - you've got me there - maybe I'm too enthusiastic about our squad.

Nonetheless I think you'll agree that, on paper at least, we're far better than:

Leicester
Spurs
United
ManU

and better by a bit than

Arsenal (but they always finish 3rd)

and a slightly bit better than

Chelsea (but they've self-destructed)

There's no way - in spite of injuries - that we should be struggling for a top 4 finish.

We should be top 2 at least and favorites to win the league.

Evidently we are not better than the three teams above us at the moment.